Yesterday, I compiled a list of what a lot of well-known atheists were saying about Richard Dawkins‘ tweet comparing trans people to Rachel Dolezal (who lied about her race) and claiming they “choose” to identify as another gender. He ended the tweet with the word “discuss,” which is odd since he was never going to engage with commenters (Here, you do the work. I’m out!) and also suggests trans identities need to be debated.
In 2015, Rachel Dolezal, a white chapter president of NAACP, was vilified for identifying as Black. Some men choose to identify as women, and some women choose to identify as men. You will be vilified if you deny that they literally are what they identify as.
Discuss.
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) April 10, 2021
So many people associated with the “New Atheists” — the sort of people media outlets routinely and unfortunately turn to whenever they need an atheist voice — defended Dawkins, lashed out against “woke” people, and argued there was nothing wrong with Just Asking Questions.
In that post, I didn’t include the voices of people who were critical of Dawkins. But in fact, a lot of people — especially bloggers, podcasters, and YouTubers — were sick of seeing Dawkins using Twitter to once again denigrate a marginalized group.
This is by no means a comprehensive list, but it’s a reminder that there are a lot of vocal atheists who are leaders in their own right and who loudly and proudly stand up for trans rights. (And if you’re not familiar with them, you should get to know them!)
Once again, I’ll post these without additional commentary.
Good on the AHA for standing up for the values of humanism, which include trans rights https://t.co/hxpKreZVlC
— Dr. Jey McCreight��️��️⚧️ (@jeymccreight) April 20, 2021
Better to be what Sam Harris calls 'struggling' than his definition of success. @Americnhumanist's brave decision marks the end of an era. Humanists/atheists deserve more inclusive, antiracist, less flat-out intolerant leadership than the loudest voices of the last generation. pic.twitter.com/9LOvP0yq8e
— Greg M. Epstein (@gregmepstein) April 20, 2021
Bold move, for Sam to trash-talk a humanist organization for standing up for trans folks. https://t.co/hlGuT1nJzN
— Matt Dillahunty (@Matt_Dillahunty) April 21, 2021
Dawkins' thoughts on feminism, race, and lgbqt issues reveal he hasn't done the reading.
His thoughts on Rachel Dolezal and trans rights are as well formed as Kirk Cameron asking "Why are there still monkeys?" to tackle the theory of evolution.— Keith Lowell Jensen Ⓥ (@keithlowell) April 22, 2021
… I hate to be the one to break this to everyone, but the next 40 years of nontheist organizing in America is going to look a lot different than the last 40 years. We’ve going to see tons of new organizations pop up that radically depart from the culture and priorities of today’s orgs. You’re going to see more younger, non-white, non-male, non-straight, non-cis leaders taking over and with that, a lot of new ideas about how to define, promote, organize, and grow our movement (again, a good thing!) that will make a lot of traditionalists super uncomfortable and upset.
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… We work tirelessly with a diverse range of allies (including religious folks) on progress, equality, and justice for all people, we just happen to like doing it in our uniquely atheist community. For those reasons and more, we do not usually hold space for endless debate about human rights for the sake of debate. Experience shows us that’s an even bigger wedge for members that share our values than calling out hate, ignorance, and bigotry of those that do not.
… For my own part, to the trans community, I’m so sorry for the man I was before. In my religious life (and as the fog emerged after), I knew nothing about these sex/gender issues, and when I hosted shows with trans guests, those podcasts served as a classroom for me as much as my audience. It’s been years of learning a new human language, of discovering yet another ring in the human circle…and the beauty that comes along with it. I see you. I support you. I’m grieved at the hate you’ve faced, and I do understand why recklessness (intended or not) harms your desperate fight to be acknowledged and accepted as human beings. I’ll never tell you how to feel or react. I can only speak to my own little world, and I’m doing the best I know how.
Won’t lie, I’m getting super tired of these guys and their “discussions.” I can’t imagine what it’s like to be a trans person… y’all must be fucking exhausted. And I’m really sorry about that. https://t.co/HnKgAXCvYS
— Wrench Wench (KC) (@ge_kaitlyn) April 21, 2021
People who never heard the word humanist before are outraged that Richard Dawkins is having his American Humanist Association award taken away.
For a man who uses his scientific background to buy credibility, Dawkins is extremely bad at thinking systemically pic.twitter.com/c2PGSFmLRl
— Will Black (@WillBlackWriter) April 20, 2021
4 atheist “leaders” from times past acting EXACTLY the way religious people act to deny queer rights.
They like to use the word “wokeness” the way Christians use “atheist” to dismiss on the basis of a single phrase instead of engaging the issue at hand. https://t.co/BHpFLNLfl9
— Jimmy Snow � � (@JimmySnowTSS) April 20, 2021
So you want to sell me on the idea that the person who literally developed the concept of "memes" doesn't have a grasp on how concepts are wrapped in deceptive or ambiguous sounding rhetoric in order to best permeate societal and cultural consciousness? Cool story! �
— mythical female – Shannon Q (@Shann_Q0) April 23, 2021
If Richard Dawkins (at risk to nobody) had said he thought big foot was real everyone in skepticism would happily put him out on his ear
But he questions the validity of millions of actual people while laws are being passed to take away their rights and it’s time to play nice
— Eli Bosnick (@elibosnick) April 21, 2021
Honestly, I think if you dehumanize an entire group of people by comparing them to a fraud, you probably don't deserve a humanist award.
— Godless Engineer (@GodlessEngineer) April 22, 2021
Seeing atheists opposing trans rights reminds us all that logical thinking on one matter doesn’t show anything about their logic on anything else, let alone about their ethics or perspective on humanism.
We need to remember to include these latter issues in our public messaging.
— David G. McAfee (@DavidGMcAfee) April 23, 2021
THREAD: Nothing has done more to clarify who stands for human progress and flourishing and who stands for outdated, regressive social norms, than AHAs censure of Richard Dawkins and it’s really great. 1/5 https://t.co/WAQZPFCjxa
— #CancelRent Ryan Bell (@ryanjbell) April 22, 2021
He is a biologist. There is plenty of biological support for trans identity. As a biologist, if he wants to ask questions about this biological topic, he should know that Twitter is not where to go for answers.
— Viced Rhino (@VicedRhino) April 22, 2021
I've been fully disillusioned by the last genderation of atheists. There are a few good eggs, but they are the exception rather than the rule.
But on a positive note, the newer generation has been supportive and outspoken here. I'm grateful for the direction we're headed. https://t.co/8lPAPvJ0MB
— Vi La Bianca (@AuthorConfusion) April 21, 2021
Dawkins writes, "Some men choose to identify as women, and some women choose to identify as men."
It doesn't matter what he's intending to accomplish by that statement. He assumes that trans women are men who "choose to identify as women" and vice versa.
— Steve Shives (@steve_shives) April 21, 2021
He's denying the legitimacy of trans identities as a fundamental condition of his question. That's transphobic. Full stop.
— Steve Shives (@steve_shives) April 21, 2021
Dawkins's tweet was unavoidably transphobic, no matter how charitably you interpret it. And Dennett is smart enough to know what he's doing here. Shame on him.
— Steve Shives (@steve_shives) April 21, 2021
Who is a good little humanist of the year? Not Richard Dawkins, but I still am, I hope.https://t.co/s5JBhZcWMH pic.twitter.com/DmbQUckQa6
— PZ Myers � (@pzmyers) April 20, 2021
Way back in 2009, the American Humanist Association thought I was worthy of their Humanist of the Year award. I was honored to receive it, and still don’t know if I really deserved it, but I do keep it in my office. I had no idea it could be taken away.
Apparently, you have to maintain your status as a good humanist, which I think is entirely appropriate. If I start promoting bigoted ideas, it should be retracted.
To any reporters, if you’re looking for atheists to speak to, you have so many options here. Use them as your starting point.
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