James Dobson’s Ministry is Struggling Because of ‘Economic Uncertainty and the Utter Foolishness of Obamacare’

It is likely that this shortfall in income has been caused in part by economic uncertainty and the utter foolishness of Obamacare.

I just consider this a nice bonus.

Does Obamacare increase literacy and decrease racism too?

This guy is positively hilarious.

I don’t live in Colorado Springs, but I do live in its Congressional district, and it’s my nearest city of any size (thankfully still a 90 minute drive). Its culture spills over the entire region. And in the last 20 years, I’ve seen a real change. While it’s still a pretty kooky place politically (how could it not be with its bizarre military economy?), it has definitely experienced a cultural shift. There’s a larger (or at least, more visible) alternative culture. Students at its schools are more vocally progressive. Multiple church scandals have eaten into the megachurch culture. The Gazette, a major voice of craziness, continues its slide into obscurity. And Focus on the Family is nearly invisible these days. All positive changes.

Even Colorado Springs has become progressive enough to recognize that what Focus is peddling isn’t something anybody needs. If the lack of financial support that Focus is seeing is the result of people having less money, you have to wonder why local charities that are helping with recent wildfire and flood losses are receiving so much support.

It starts and ends with money. These people are the most successful freeloaders on Earth. They do nothing, and get everything for it as long as they say things that propagate hatred, and/or susperstition, and/or traditional cultural memes, and/or political advoca-*cough*-personal views.

I have to laugh maniacally when conservatives bitch about having to pay taxes or government programs that provide for the poor. These people then turn around and willingly cough up hundreds or thousands of dollars – unquestioned – each year to paying for a shaman’s life and property. They can’t even use personal choice as a defense: regardless of which church they go to, they’re still paying for someone’s life and property, who has no other skills to contribute substantively to the society at large. On top of the fact that said shamans are also given lots of social deference and slack because of such a “noble” undertaking…

And it’s so pliable. Really runs the gamut.

“I’m breaking up with you. It’s not you, it’s Obamacare.”

“Yes Your Honor, I did rape my 14-year-old niece. Obamacare.”

“economic uncertainty and the utter foolishness of Obamacare.”

Ahh yes, just one more piece of public proof that a large portion of christianity in the US is primarily a political movement rather than a religious one.

And since I’m sure, Dobson’s alternative to the Affordable Care Act is to have the guberment do absolutely nothing to help anyone get healthcare, It also is a fine display of that strange US phenomenon where the very people who most reject Darwinism and evolution are the very same ones who most embrace a social darwinistic economic system.

Hey James maybe people are leaving your church because their loved ones don’t have healthcare and you lobby against them having it!

Hey Hemant, I’m a follower of Jesus. I raised my kids in the 80’s with an eye to Dobson, et al. I can confidently say that I was sooo wrong. Dobson is a second tier psychologist and a non-theologian. I really hope that his organizations go belly-up because of the hate that comes out of them. Please know that not all followers of Jesus subscribe to his position. Thanx, mike

How is anybody still using the “bad economy” schtick? The Dow is at around 16,000+ and Nasdaq is equally high. Obviously someone is making a shit-ton of money somewhere. The “bad economy” is just greedy people being extra greedy.

Focus spent well over a half million dollars in 2008 in support of Proposition 8 in California. That expenditure forced them into layoffs (isn’t that family friendly?) and a financial weakness they’ve never fully recovered from.

Had they actually applied their resources towards helping people, they might be in a very different position today.

One of the biggest mistakes made in economics here in the US is believing that a stock market is an actual indicator of how an economy is doing as a whole.

Every now and then people I know laugh when some obviously gay famous person “comes out”. These folks cannot imagine that a nice person who is a good neighbor and decent ethical person could be gay. They are so inundated with anti-gay propaganda that they just can’t imagine that someone they like could be homosexual. So yes, when they see that some celebrity they like has come out they imagine that they weren’t gay all along. There is no rise in homosexuality. it’s just that gays are less and less willing to pretend to be straight to avoid the disapproval of strangers.

The stock markets are doing just fine; “quatitative easing” by the Fed has certainly helped, and the focus of government help on the upper tiers of the economy is noticable. The super-rich are super-richer than ever. Many corporations are raking in record profits. So: where are the jobs?

According to conservative “trickle-down” economics, letting super-rich people and corporations keep more of their money (by lowering taxes) helps everybody, because the super-rich are the “job creators.” It should be clear to anyone who is paying attention that we have lived that experiment, and the hypothesis has failed.

I think we need to define “small”. Businesses with under 50 employees aren’t affected.

There has always been unwed pregnancies, suicides and murders. He is just another conservative looking at the past through rose colored glasses.

What indicator do you prefer? Home prices are on the rise, new home sales are up, unemployment is down, discretionary consumer spending is rising, new car sales…

“Thanks, Obama!”

Beware of Greeks bearing health insurance.

Employment figures, payroll estimates, manufacturing numbers, import/export figures, ect….

But to rely on just one indicator that can easaly rise when the rest all drop is a foolish way of looking at an economy.

I think they focus their energy on Obamacare just so they don’t slip up and let out a “There’s a n****r in the White House! Shits all fucked up!” But I’m only guessing.

It couldn’t possibly be that his message is old, busted, bigoted and irrelevant. Oh no, it has to be Obamacare, or Obamaburger, or Obamagolf, or… it’s Obama fucking up something, I know that much. Has to be.

My local GOP keep digging for horror stories and promising they’re getting tons. They’ve shared only a few, all very short on detail.

Yeah, if they were getting tons, we’d hear about every single one.

It’s weird. It must be a massive Liberal Conspiracy that all of the millions of horror stories are being suppressed….

So you admit to stealing taxpayers hard earned money to get ‘free’ health care.

/fox-spin

Please don’t be ashamed of who you are.

Hi Mike, It’s nice to hear that not all believers think we hate them, live & let live i say.☮

Ooooh. You could totally work for Fox News :D.

Where were you when I was 17??? J/K I’m fine now. (And probably you weren’t even born yet when I was 17. LOL)

Well, comprehensive healthcare is supposed to eliminate disease, so if Dobson’s garage hate lab goes down, great! That’s one less source of malevolent social disease.

Clearly that’s why the religious right hates it so much. Without constant fear over something, they might have to close some churches.

From Tony Perkins, Family Research Council, who was in one of those newsletters: SLANTED MUCH? hahaha

“After two decades of bitter back
and forth, one of the last strongholds for morality in America finally
buckled. Late this afternoon, despite a relentless push by Scouts in
every state, the National Council exchanged a century-old legacy for a
false compromise that puts an American tradition on the pathway to
extinction. After 103 years of principled leadership, the organization
proved that it was incapable of the same kind of courage it’s been
instilling in American boys since the beginning of the 1900s. By a
lopsided vote, delegates ushered into the Boy Scouts a new era of moral
compromise, allowing homosexual boys and turning against a majority of
members in the process. It took strong-armed tactics, political sharks,
and corporate harassment, but the national leadership of BSA finally
succeeded in forcing through a…policy that robs the Scouts of its
innocence.”1

So true. Just today they are running an editorial that says the ship trapped in Antarctic ice is yet another demonstration that there’s no global warming. The person responsible is a Catholic, and has also written frequently on the value of Christianity, has attacked atheists for billboards and their “war on Christmas”, and other such topics we’re all familiar with.

Apparently, the Gazette’s editorial board is incapable of embarrassment.

My dad, who is 84 and watches Fox 24/7, insisted he had to have his hernia operation before Obamacare kicked in. The only day available was the day before Thanksgiving, so there went Turkey Day. Because you know, the minute the ACA kicks in, doctors will all be drunk and nurses will stop washing their hands and be covered in sores from the Plague.

Plus, long term unemployment, average length of time between jobs, stagnant wages, etc. There are a LOT of indicators. Looking at just one (any one) is foolish. There is both good and bad news in these numbers. It’s dishonest to pick and choose to prove whatever narrative you want to tell. The economy is back for some and not for others. For example: I know people who have limited opportunities where they are but because they are underwater on their home (assuming they could sell it since there are three empty foreclosed houses in their neighborhood) they are stuck where they are for the foreseeable future. That’s hardly “good”. Better than the complete meltdown we were in five years ago, but a lot of people are in serious trouble and things are not getting any better for them.

P.S. Before believing any news source about the economy, read what they were saying in 2007. Every major bank had a hiring freeze and cost cutting measures in place by early 2007 because they all knew the crash was coming. Was your news source informing you of this, because they knew? Or were they telling you that housing prices would continue to go up?

I sure Joe Klein will note how funny it is that you do not see atheists claiming that Obamacare cost them donations.

Close churches? That sounds like a waste of building space. I’m thinking a total conversion. Transform those buildings into centers of inquiry where the scientific method is routinely used. Where concepts like natural biology, germ theory, and chemistry are the norm. A place where critical thinking is an absolute must! A place that is absolutely necessary for the health of society and the people in general.

You know…a medical clinic or hospital!

Thank you. I now have the Heat Miser song stuck in my head…

let’s take a poll:

raise your hand/leave a post if you:

-paid a capital gains tax in excess of $5,000 this year
-created a job in a business you own thanks to a tax cut
-got a job that directly related to lower taxes on a corporation
-increased your personal wealth thanks to lower taxes in states like MI and WI, where republican govs have spread those benes for corps
-found a better paying job in a non-union employment situation that was once dominated by union employees

i’m sure it will be a long list of responses. /s

How much time must have to pass until anyone understands that preaching is not a real job,
How embarrasing, a person qith a doctor degree and living on donations instead of working.

Yup, thanks to Obamacare my daughter and her Christian boyfriend are getting married this spring because they will be able to stay on their respective parents health insurance and get free birth control so they can finish their last year of college before having kids, otherwise they’d probably just live in sin next year because they wouldn’t have been able to afford private insurance. Obamacare is causing the downfall of society, all right, it’s making it possible for college students to get married.

I’m an orthopaedic RN working on a joint replacement unit. November
and December are always our busiest months of the year for several
reasons (people taking advantage of time off work, deductibles already
being met, and using up FSA’s). Several weeks ago, a patient, observing
how busy we were, stated that she heard it was from all the people
losing their insurance coverage in January due to Obamacare.

When I told her this was a normal December for us, and our surgeons actually expect to be busier than usual in 2014 because of people GAINING coverage from the ACA, she looked at me like I was no longer her RN but an alien that spouted
three heads.

I think Archer captures the appropriate response to James Dobson’s tears quite well:

http://youtu.be/4recrtm4cks

It’s people like you who make the internet look brown from coffee-stained monitors. However, they believe Jesus was already resurrected and are waiting for his return. Waiting… waiting… any day now… waiting… for going on 2000 years.

Ooooh… start taking shots at millions of people, and that’s when the gloves come off!

It isn’t taxpayer money, Ignoramus – it’s pool money, set up by fair contributions. If I had to go on that system, I would not feel the least bit badly that my prescriptions were paid by younger, healthy people who were forced to pay. An accident could happen no matter what your condition, and if you’re in that pool it may be a mauling, or it may be a flea bite which your bank account is spared, but the economy remains stable either way!

My mother really doesn’t like Elvis because of that.

I drove by the gated community where his million dollar plus “humble abode” is located, and I didn’t see any for sale signs. BTW the Scam Shop… err I mean his ministry actually owns the house so they don’t have to pay the taxes that would be on the property.

Great snark….but needs a little editing:

What a glorious day it will be when Christ is resurrected and he righteously strips the less-affluent of their health insurance…..and their food stamp support, minimum wage rights, rights to a decent education for their kids, welfare support….and right to vote!

I assume Dobson’s organization is exempt from taxes and its finances go undisclosed. If true, how do we know Dobson is not siphoning funds into his personal treasury in order to continue living comfortably when his empire crumbles?

It was sarcasm dude. That is what the /fox-spin was for.

“I had fun hooking up with you last week. Why didn’t I call you again? … Obamacare.”

Remember, you don’t get the million dollars till you leave town.

Also good!