Mayor of Flower Mound, Texas Declares 2014 ‘Year of the Bible’ and Launches Website Declaring the Bible as Truth January 1, 2014

Mayor of Flower Mound, Texas Declares 2014 ‘Year of the Bible’ and Launches Website Declaring the Bible as Truth

Flower Mound, Texas Mayor Tom Hayden proclaimed 2014 the “Year of the Bible” at the December 16 City Council meeting and the depths with which this government official is using his title and office to promote Christianity is unbelievable.

Mayor Tom Hayden

Check out his official announcement at the meeting:

While most of it is boring to watch, pay special attention to the 2:10 mark, when he dedicates the proclamation to his father, whose goal in life is to die:

… I’m very fortunate that I have a father who’s a great example. And his entire life, he’s had one goal in life: That’s to go to Heaven. And he’s 81 years old and when he dies, everything he’s ever wanted in life will be a reality. And that is a great inheritance as a son to have of a father…

That’s the saddest thing I’ve ever heard.

Anyway, afterwards, Hayden explains why he wants to promote the Bible and get his community to discuss it, making this a city-sponsored Bible Study. While his proclamation is similar to the one made by President Ronald Reagan in 1983, what makes Hayden’s decision even worse is that he goes a step further and endorses a website — — that is run by a local church but works in conjunction with the city and holds nothing back about how the Bible is the Word of God:

We are so excited to support this project with the belief that God is going to work though it and bless our community with the hope that is contained in the scriptures. May we be in constant prayer for one another and unite around each other as fellow Flower Mound residents in love knowing that in the end our love for our neighbor is at the heart of God… as Jesus said “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

Calvary Chapel Flower Mound

This is *so* far beyond a simple proclamation honoring the Bible — something that’s been done in many places before. This is a straight-up “Fuck You” to the Muslims, Hindus, Jews, atheists, and all other non-Christians in the community. With the Mayor proclaiming the Bible as God’s Word and the Truth, he’s acting as if he’s the town minister and not an elected government official.

In addition to the Bible readings, the website also features a number of quotations from prominent Americans talking about how freakin’ awesome the Bible is, though some of them are dubious:

“The Bible is the best gift God has given to man” – Abraham Lincoln

“A studious perusal of the sacred volume will make better citizens, better fathers, and better husbands” – Thomas Jefferson

It’s very doubtful that Lincoln ever actually said that and no citation is offered. The Jefferson quotation is an interesting addition since it’s well-known that the “Jefferson Bible” excluded the supernatural aspects of the story of Jesus. I haven’t had time to run through the other quotations.

To be clear, no one is stopping the church from hosting a Bible study like this. The problem is the Mayor supporting the project with his title and office; he’s completely overstepped his bounds:

On December 16, 2013, Mayor Tom Hayden of Flower Mound made a proclamation declaring 2014 “The Year of the Bible” for the Town of Flower Mound. His desire was bring our town back to a Biblical foundation which our country was founded and built upon. His vision is that as a Town, as many as wanted to participate, would as a community read through the entire Bible in a year together. With much prayer going into this endeavor we are excited to launch this website as a connecting point to fulfill the Mayor’s vision.

It’s worth pointing out that there’s no mention of the proclamation on the city’s official website or, weirdly enough, in the minutes of the city council meeting. There’s also no link back to the city’s website on the Bible study site, even though mentions of the mayor and a link back to a local Fox affiliate’s report on the proclamation are easily found.

It’s like they know what they’re doing is wrong, so they want to hide the connection between the two things, even though the video and news report point to a very clear connection.

You can bet church/state separation groups will be on this case ASAP. Popular or not, the government should never be promoting one religion over another but that’s precisely what Hayden has done here.

The taxpayers in his town can thank him when they have to pay the penalty for his irresponsibility.

(Thanks to @senorbuckwheat for the link)

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  • LesterBallard

    “… I’m very fortunate that I have a father who’s a great example. And his entire life, he’s had one goal in life: That’s to go to Heaven. And he’s 81 years old and when he dies, everything he’s ever wanted in life will be a reality. And that is a great inheritance as a son to have of a father…”

    It’s a fucking death cult, based on fear.

  • His vision is that as a Town, as many as wanted to participate, would as a community read through the entire Bible in a year together.

    Well at least that will result in a few more townsfolk becoming atheists. They’ll need a “You’re not alone” billboard by the end of the year.

  • diogeneslamp0

    As I said before, the Christian lifestyle is a criminal lifestyle. Gangstas and scofflaws who obey no rules, take your freedom away and bully everyone the second they’re numerous enough to push you down and take what you’ve got.

  • diogeneslamp0

    Asshole wants his dad to die! Human sacrifice cult based on blood magic.

    Why don’t you just put a pillow over your dad’s face, if you Christians love death like you say you do?

  • Matt Potter

    Listen right around the 6:30 mark. This is all about having people read the bible as a ‘community effort’ not a ‘church effort'( and also ‘not to be ashamed to talk about’ the bible), so nothing to see here. Everything’s going to be all right. I know as a resident of Texas that Christianity is near extinction here, sometimes I have to drive 2 or even 3 blocks to see a church or a giant cross.

  • Paul (not the apostle)

    I think we should just be patient. I am sure that in future years they will read through the Qur’an and then on to other holy books and finishing up with age of Reason or End of Faith. They just started with the Bible because the fair way is to go alphabetical. (sarcasm intended)

  • pete084

    If daddy had only one goal on life, to go to heaven, and he has reached the ripe old age of 81, I’d say he has failed miserably!

    I think it’s pretty sad when your main ambition in life is to end that life, especially when people I knew who enjoyed the life they had which was so cruelly taken away from them at less than half the age of the heaven loving daddy.

  • Sue (Yet, She Persisted) Blue

    I wouldn’t be too upset if this doofus made going to heaven an immediate personal goal. If death is so great, what are these morons sticking around for? You’d think they’d all be in an ass-on-fire rush to get away from the evil liberals, gay marriage, the evolutionists, uppity women controlling their own bodies and sex lives, and all the natural disasters that keep punishing us for our evil ways…so what’s stopping them?

  • Rob Bos

    I’d think that as long as they aren’t dedicating any town resources to it, in the form of sponsored worship services, then it should be fine.

    I think this could be smoke for some actual fire, though.

  • mikespeir

    Flower Mound? Really? Surely, New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago will be falling into line soon enough.

  • Jeff See

    You go to hell if you commit suicide. I guess Jim Jones was just trying to help his flock out?

  • cyb pauli

    So next year is the year of the Qu’ran right?

  • $925105

    2014 is the year of the bible, so what was so wrong with 2013 having been the year of the bible? It’s probably been the year of the bible every year since Reagan did it back in 1985.

  • skinnercitycyclist

    ” They just started with the Bible because the fair way is to go alphabetical. (sarcasm intended)”

    I guess they forgot the “Analects of Kung Fu Tzu,” in that case (sarcasm continued).

  • playonwords

    The Lincoln quote appears accurate as he said it on being presented with a Bible.

    The Jefferson quote is hotly disputed as it was only cited many years after the event by Daniel Webster.

  • Randay

    Off Topic, but this is for Hemant as a math teacher. This is from an article on racism in the HuffPost–I know, I know. It is the last story in the article.

    “I am a black man who was born in the late 1950s, raised in Pennsylvania, and currently makes over $100,000 a year. I have a bachelors degree in mathematics, and a masters degree in management. I have encountered discrimination a number of times in my adult life, and I will list three incidents below.

    1. In college, I can remember being told by a white mathematics professor that black people didn’t know anything about math or science, and that I was wasting my time. He told me I should pursue something different, and he specifically mentioned that I should try social work, because he felt that this was a better discipline for me to pursue.”…

    This discrimination might be of use as a topic.

  • MNb

    I hope that community read will pay special attention to the two contradictory creation stories in Genesis. So much for reproof, wisdom, knowledge, understanding and truth.

  • TheG

    Then why go to doctors? Why go to the gym? Why stop at red lights?

  • A3Kr0n

    The Mayor of Flower Mound, Texas needs to be removed from office immediately, and an emergency election held.

  • TheG

    It is still an endorsement of religion. It does two things that are major no-no’s:

    1) Coerces citizens into religious actions that serve no secular purposes.

    2) Promotes the idea that those people that do not follow the proclamation are outsiders and not full members of the community.

    Both are legal (but immoral) for private organizations. But these are rightfully illegal for a governmental body, even if no public funds are directly used.

  • TheG

    Bigots can’t operate in a vacuum. You are assuming the majority of the voters in this backwater town don’t agree with him.

  • Bob Jase

    Ain’t gonna happen. As soon as the believers get to a part they don’t like they’ll close the book and say they already know the story so they don’t need to read any farther.

  • Mjaor Nav

    The paper quoted Lincoln, but that is not what he said. Besides, when you read the whole quote, I imagine just a touch of sarcasm.
    In 1864, some former slaves in Maryland presented Lincoln with a gift of a Bible. Lincoln replied:

    “In regard to this great book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Saviour gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man’s welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it.”

    In response to the reported speech in Maryland, Lincoln’s partner the Hon. William H. Herndon remarked “I am aware of the fraud committed on Mr. Lincoln in reporting some insane remarks supposed to have been made by him, in 1864, on the presentation of a Bible to him by the colored people of Baltimore. No sane man ever uttered such folly, and no sane man will ever believe it.”

  • SeekerLancer

    A Dallas-Ft. Worth suburb with over 64,000 people is hardly backwater.

  • Another Southern town that loves to pay for lawsuits instead of roads

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    “his entire life, he’s had one goal in life: That’s to go to Heaven. ”

    That’s not just sad, but it is also a little pathetic in my opinion. That is like living your life with the goal of waiting for the stars to align and the old ones to awake from their slumber.

  • Nick Pisca

    Nothing creates more atheists than a genuine reading of the entire bible. Not only did this idiot cost the community the tax of fighting against SOCAS groups, but he will ironically will spark burgeoning non-believers when they hit the whole genocide/rape/child sacrifice parts of the bible that he so casually mentioned he himself had not read yet.

  • Willy Occam

    Yes, regrettably….

  • Willy Occam

    Religious nuts have been cherry-picking that damn book for centuries, and they will continue to do so. I’m afraid a “genuine” reading of the Bible among the indoctrinated is rare.

  • HipsterDouche

    I think I figured it out. Does anybody feel that the Jesus people (can’t think of a better term) are trying to “out-Jesus” each other? Like when a woman walks by a construction site, the men all try and check her out the most, and seems that who ever does the most “daaaayum!”s, they win.

  • Guest

    I hope everyone is familiar with Flower Mound’s endless court battles over ordinances requiring landlords to check the immigration status of renters. Now that the anti-immigrant thing has run its course the mayor just wants to find a new way to get his face on TV. It seems like a cynical ploy to continue his “victimhood.”

  • TheG

    The size of a sewage plant does not make the incoming water any less shitty.

  • Sam Black

    I fully expect this to go to court where the city and mayor will lose.

    But what I’d really like to see is public outcry and infighting as the True Christians each work to promote their favorite translation and/or bundle of biblical books. If I lived there I’d have to add fuel to the fire by volunteering for a reading and then picking a book or version the locals find heretical.

    Of course a truly inspired and lustful reading of Ezekiel 23:20 might be just as much fun.

  • Carol Lynn

    If they are somehow conscious of a problem, they will instantly take it to their pastor who will explain away any doubts they have. They are very good at that.

  • Jeff See

    Why would they look both ways when you cross the street?

    Oh I agree. Dying is something you only look forward to as a Christian, when you’re farthest from it. I’ve only seen one Christian die, who welcomed it when it came (my grandmother). Everyone else fought it tooth and nail.

  • Leiningen’s Ants

    True, but only because suicide doesn’t leave you time to confess your sin, bar some precise chemistry. That’s why brutally murdering a child in order to receive the death penalty, then confessing and repenting, was thought up by some particularly brainy Christians. Think of all those child murderers singing the praises of merciful loving God in Heaven right now!

    As an added bonus, if the kid prays and repents before being cut open sternum to scrotum, that’s two happy souls in Heaven!

  • gwf1213

    i believe thats farmers branch.

  • you are correct!

  • tsig

    For god so loved the world that he sent the flood that killed all but eight.

  • tsig

    I’m covered when the old ones awaken, My name is written in gold at the top of the menu.

  • Leiningen’s Ants

    Well, Occam’s answer would be that they don’t really believe in Heaven in their regular daily operating mode.

    Probably for lack of more rigorous indoctrination.

  • katiehippie

    Many people don’t like to read so I say good luck with that.

  • Artor

    And then the Bhagavad Gita comes next.

  • Bob Jase

    Any relation to 3 Skeleton Key?

  • Bob Jase

    Well they probably were good tippers.

  • Carmelita Spats

    I love Christian infighting so I pointed out the Protestant slant and the books that have been left out. I posted comments under the tab marked “Welcome” but they have not made it through moderation. It takes moral cowardice to censor and the only comments allowed are those praising the mayor’s cheap pandering such as, “Thank you Mr. Mayor, God will bless you and our community for what you have done. Our country has separated itself from God and what it was founded on in recent years. This may be the start for our rehabilitation.” Rehab us for Christ, Dear Leader? There is another section for comments under the tab marked “Devotionals”. You can comment on the Bible passages but I doubt that my pants-on-fire biblical exegesis will be allowed due to Flower Mound’s favorite bedtime story: The Emperor Mayor Has No Clothes.

  • Bob Jase

    That comment should be in a fortune cookie!

  • Garstor

    I have reported this to the FFRF. I don’t live in Flower Mound but I am close by. I did leave the following comment on their website ( “I wonder if you will still be this thankful when Flower Mound is sued for violating the First Amendment?”

    Comments are moderated, so I do not expect it to ever be seen…

  • Tat Wadjet

    They need to hurry up and get through the bible… Book of the Dead is next 😉

  • Matt Ranson

    Considering Jefferson said that Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man, I’d at least feel comfortable in saying that Jefferson was not a Christian. As for Lincoln, his own wife said he never mentioned anything regarding faith. Perhaps someone gave him a bible as a gift and he wanted to thank the person and not insult their gift.

  • Garstor

    I’ve always been curious about the cost of a billboard. I’d love to participate/assist with one here.

  • Lark62

    I posted the following comment. I’m guessing it won’t pass moderation, but I had to try. My only hope is that they miss the sarcasm. (okay, not likely).

    This is so great. It is wonderful that the elected government of Flower Mound is making sure that all non-Christians are informed of their status as outsiders. Let’s really rub their noses in it good. Christians rule, period. All non-Christians are worthless outsiders who have no role in this city. It is great that the government of Flower Mound sees this truth, and is taking action to exclude and isolate all non-Christians and to promote the one correct religious viewpoint. Next, let’s all stomp on the Constitution before burning it. We all know that the founding fathers secretly intended to create a theocracy, they work so well. That stuff about the government not advancing one religion over others was just a silly joke.

  • Bob Trieger

    Hardly backwater and there’s money there.

  • Sam McMichael

    Ok, this is my hometown. I’m aghast. Today I happened upon this article for the first time, so I did some google searching and scoured the town website (which I regularly visit). Google revealed this information all over the internet, but the town website has no mention that I can find whatsoever.

    My town (which is a lot larger than the term ‘town’ gives credit) is a fruitful, growing suburb of Dallas. It’s home to some of the highest ranked schools in the entire state. It’s very pro-business and community. The median income is over $100,000.

    I love my town. And I am utterly embarrassed by this rubbish. I can handle a church on every street corner. I can usually even handle my hyper-religious neighbors. This, though, is just ridiculous and SO EMBARRASSING.

  • Sam McMichael

    I will donate to that cause!

  • Sam McMichael

    That is not Flower Mound. That is a nearby town, Farmer’s Branch.

  • diogeneslamp0

    I haven’t read that the fake Jefferson quote is from Daniel Webster. This is how fake “Professor” David Barton sourced it:

    Jim Allison writes: “Barton’s quotation from Jefferson is taken from Herbert Lockyear, “The Last Words of Saints and Sinners”, 1969.

    …We tracked down the book and discovered that it had no footnotes that direct the reader back to either Jefferson’s own writings, or to secondary accounts of Jefferson’s life; the quote, in other words, is untraceable.
    Moreover, we’ve never seen this quote referenced in any scholarly work on Jefferson’s attitude toward religion, or in any account of Jefferson’s death (the context of Lockyear’s book). If Jefferson uttered these words, it has apparently escaped the notice of most historians.

    We have simply never encountered a legitimate scholar that reports an unfootnoted quotation from a secondary source writing some 140 years
    after the fact as the truth, especially when that quotation seems not to be known to other scholars. If Barton wants us to accept this quote as authentic, he should be able to indicate to where it can be found in Jefferson’s works, or else point us to a secondary source that provides the relevant documentation.

    Barton does neither. It’s hard to resist the conclusion that this quote was fabricated by Lockyear, and that Barton reports it knowing full well that there are questions as to its authenticity. [Newsflash: Barton now admits this quotation is fabricated! ] — [Research by Jim Allison,

  • Sam McMichael

    Comments like that really undermine your point.

  • JaniceInToronto

    I want to follow this lawsuit. There’s no way he’s getting away with this.

  • Jared James

    Insincerity and mental compartmentalization. Death-cult Christians are incapable of thinking logically about their religion because they hide reason behind “right” and active morality behind “prayer.”

  • Aerial View

    I can’t help but wonder what the mascot of “Flower Mound” high school looks like.

  • Cat’s Staff

    He did this during the “Public Participation” portion of the meeting, which may mean that he was announcing it as a citizen of the city rather than mayor which is why it’s not on the city website as an official proclamation. That doesn’t make it much better, maybe worse considering how he’s trying to make it appear to be an official proclamation. Listening to the video… he said “tonight I’d like to make a special proclamation” … he refers to it as a “special proclamation” at least twice. The high school singing groups gets up at ~20 minutes and signs some a cappella Christmas songs.

  • WinstonsMyDog

    A stylized blue and silver jaguar:

    I have relatives who used to live in Flower Mound. This doesn’t surprise me one bit.

  • SeekerLancer

    Yes, the entire Dallas-Ft. Worth area is unfortunately a supernova of ignorant people.

  • Tor

    “Popular or not, the government should never be promoting one religion over another…

    Correction: not “should,” but “must.”

  • Tor

    “Flower Mound” sounds like something you’d see in the Rose Parade upon which a same-gender couple would get married.

  • Tor

    My critique: Wonderful writing and satire – until the stomping and burning the constitution thing gave you away completely. You even had me going with you before that. You can do better next time.

    Also, I am a pissy critic of everything. I have to admit I really enjoyed your post, and am sure it got deleted from its target audience.

  • Tor

    The Book of Genesis reads like a comedy of errors, where God just can’t get his greatest invention, mankind, to work properly. He comes off as some sort of celestial goof-off.

  • Lark62

    I know, I know. I tried to keep toned down, but I just couldn’t. I’ll have to keep practicing….

  • Tor

    So it’s not a backwater – I still bet that most of the constituents agree with him.

  • Tor

    Oops. Bhagavad Gita comes before Bible. And if you call it ‘Holy Bible,’ it is waaaay out of sequence.

  • Helena Bell

    It’s sad to read that his father’s only goal in life was too go to heaven. I rather live my life to the fullest now and set my goals for when I’m alive. I wonder if they will skip the parts about how god preformed atrocities against mankind, murdering,slavery,mutilation,hatred,etc. Then again, if they skip those parts, what will they talk about. I just don’t understand how people can worship such hatred. In the words of Rickey Gervais, “if god is real then why did he make me an atheist”

  • The Michael Kay

    Town ordinance doesn’t allow billboards of any kind! They even made the Home Depot in the town change their color of “orange” because they didn’t like the color!

  • TheG


    But it doesn’t undermine the truth.

  • TheG

    Yes, yes. And if I gild a turd with enough gold, it will be worth money. But it is still only an expensive pile of shit.

  • alexxx

    i think ive grew up in this town about 10 or 11 years and i can deffinietly say that this town is some what like a small box where nothing happens and the only thing to look forward to is tomorrow, the people that live here ( including myself) honestly have not much to really do with themselves since there just isnt anything to do in this rich and boring town(not everyone)(seeing that so many kids are on drugs; many people i know). i assume that lots of people need some kind of purpose or fullfillment feeling in life and i guess some people turn to god for that but when your beliefs and life are coming into play with the lives of others in the town that your the mayor of… your stirring up a heap of trouble becuase NOT EVERYONE WANTS YOUR BS PRESSED INTO THEIR LIVES because not everyone believes in the same stuff you do, hopefully this isnt tooo big of a reality check for the mayor and the town of flower mound but like some one else said making your whole town based off of religion is going to create a group of non believers that live here but arent included in the town at all. im just tired of america being a country of freedom when we are all trying to be sucked into religion i tihnk its just sick

  • It could be … 64,000 people is not very many. Round Rock is a backwater suburb of Austin and it has almost 100,000 people, but that doesn’t change its backwater status.

  • Spuddie

    A mound of flowers must have a lot of fertilizer. So my guess would be a big pile of bullshit. =)

  • Jim Jones

    Yahweh: The Homer Simpson of gods.

  • Jermaine PopnFresh

    Why not go back to India if you don’t ilke it? If I immigrated to India, I would not be criticizing their Hindu beliefs. Why do you think you can come to a country and open your big yap against their beliefs? Or if an American moved to Iran and wanted to throw down their Islamic beliefs. Who are you Mr. Mehta?

  • Madison

    That’s a pretty bigoted comment. As a country built on immigrants, Freedom of religion and speech, he is doing exactly what an american should do! Christianity is NOT “our beliefs” like you imply. And we are definitely not a theocracy; there is NOT any one religion here.

  • Gehennah

    In this places called the USA, we do have this little thing called the Separation of Church and State. This means that the government, in no official capacity, should be promoting one religion over another, which is exactly what is happening in this case.

    If the Mayor was promoting it in his free time, and not using his official title, then there would be no problem with it at all. But he’s not. Of course when the courts step in (which will happen hopefully) he’s going to cry persecution even though he’s not being persecuted for his beliefs at all.

  • scottrose


  • scottrose

    Your problem Jermaine appears to be that when you pulled your head out of your ass, your head fell off and all that was left was a talking asshole.

  • MarkTemporis

    Really want to photoshop various versions of that ‘WHY THE BIBLE’ flyer.


    Given time, I could easily come up with reasons each of those provides moral lessons as good or better than those in the Bible. Nobody gets eaten by bears in the Harry Potter series, and Superman doesn’t hate you if you are gay.

  • MarkTemporis

    I am born American, in spite of what the birthers think about my state’s status. I have NEVER believed in a god, and see no reason to start. This is MY country too, and Christianity is not one of MY beliefs. Neither was it Thomas Jefferson’s or Thomas Paine’s — really, Hemant is the Friendly Atheist for a reason. You REALLY want to be offended, check out what Thomas Paine had to say about Christianity.

  • MarkTemporis

    Really, my first thoughts on hearing the phrase ‘Flower Mound’ is that it could be a vagina reference from some terrible, overly-written, Victorian-era purple prose. “…then I shall descend upon thy flower mound with kisses and my own engorged pistil…” (/gack)

  • Kenzie

    I’m currently living here, I moved from a small town in Minnesota, and usually it’s small towns that are the biggest bible pushers. But this whole thing is so ridiculous. As if the schools itself didn’t push Christianity beyond belief (no pun intended), this is…terrible. This is such I huge middle finger to all non-Christians living in the community. I already get horrendously ostracized in school for being an atheist. This will definitely worsen it.

  • Kenzie

    Anyone think a protest would be effective?

    This honestly doesn’t bother me if he were to have declared it JUST in the Christian church community of the town, instead of the whole damn community…

  • srt

    Obviously you have never read the bible because it dont say that at all..

  • Kenzie, good luck. You sound smart and self-aware, and I hope you (and Michaela) can find a way to make your concerns heard. I know young people don’t always get listened to, especially in areas like that, but if you keep talking, sooner or later they have to hear your voice. I know I’m just an internet stranger, but I’m really rooting for you both here.

  • Ah, the old, “America: Love it or leave it” idea. Gee, and here I’d thought folks had outgrown this back in the late ’70s after it had been lampooned on All in the Family, among other places.

    In case you need it explained to you, here’s the fact: The U.S. is not a Christian nation. We have a lot of Christians, true … but we also have Jews, and Buddhists, and Muslims, and “New Agers,” and Scientologists, and a whole lot of other things. The U.S. also has non-believers like myself.

    Are you saying all those Jews and Buddhists and Muslims and “New Agers” and Scientologists are required to convert to Christianity just because you and your co-religionists demand they do so? Good luck with that. Are you saying that I, as a non-believer, am also required to convert to Christianity? I can assure you that will NEVER happen. You’re free to track me down and give it your best shot, but nothing you can possibly do to me, will make me a Christian like yourself. I guarantee it.

    For that matter, what about other Christians? Some of them have unorthodox ideas. A few of them might seem unrecognizable as “Christian.” For instance, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons, among others, frequently are accused of “not being ‘Real’ Christians.” What would you like to do about all those odd Christian and pseudo-Christian sects? Force them to be more conventional in their Christianity? How well do you think that’s going to work?

    In the end, Christian Nationers like yourself can pitch fits all day long about the fact that there actually are other Americans who’re insolent enough to refuse to believe as they do. But no tantrums they throw can change that reality. They’re left either to live with the world as it is, or they can rage about it and and demand the rest of the country change itself to suit their wishes.

    The former would be the more mature choice. I suggest giving it a shot … for once. Or, you can bluster and fume about those who refuse to believe as you do. The choice is yours.

  • You’re right. That’s what this is about. Christians climbing all over each other, trying to impress each other with how righteous and pious they all are.

    Ironically, this is the very sort of game the founder of their own religion knew his followers would play, and explicitly forbid them ever to do:

    Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven. So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. (Mt 6:1-6)

  • allein

    The bible may not say that but The Church™ does.

  • allein

    There’s a contact link at the top of the page where you can get Hemant’s email address. He might not see this post.

  • Stephen Tkacs

    I left this comment:

    “I used to be enslaved by my own hubris; now I am free to worship the way the government tells me to. If there is one thing the government is good at, it’s telling people how to pray.”
    Now I shall see if it survives moderation.

  • Jeff See

    Murder is a ‘deadly sin’. If you kill yourself, you’ve no avenue to ask for forgiveness after the fact. Ergo, suicide = hell. You could ask for forgiveness WHILE you kill yourself, I suppose.

    And you obviously haven’t read your bible. Give 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 a try.

    And any discussion about the Bible you would like to have, is most welcome. Reading it through, front to back twice, and nightly before bed for over 15 years while trying to be devout, is the biggest thing that lead me to my atheism. Maybe it could help lead to yours.

  • Stephen Tkacs

    A popular tool among bible thumpers is the highlighter, which not only highlights selected passages but renders everything else invisible. I doubt this government organized religion experiment is going to touch on all those passages in which the Lord delivers entire populations to the hand of some devout believer to have those people killed or enslaved. Then again, maybe the people of Flower Mound will sacrifice some goats and oxen and then attack The Colony, where I live, because the Lord promised it to them.

  • WalterWhite007

    Revelation; def’n ; I had a bat shit crazy idea that just came to me so it must have been put there by god!!
    god sure creates a lot of morons!! 🙂

  • WalterWhite007

    Most of the charitable donations made by faith heads is to their church. Often the money goes to the guy running the church and helps no one in actual need.

  • WalterWhite007

    ‘ challenges beyond our abilities’ ….sounds like something a quick prayer could fix!! 🙂

  • Stephen Tkacs

    It looks like they turned off comments on the Web site. Maybe the server encountered a sarcasm overload.

  • Sam McMichael

    I’m sorry, but the town isn’t backwater. It’s caught in old religious self righteousness. Resorting to ad hominem attacks does NO good.

    – Your friendly Flower Mound resident

  • Sam McMichael

    Believe me, this is a running joke for most in Flower Mound. lol!

    In reality, the mascot of the original high school a marauder. I’m guessing he is the guy who originally mounted the town’s flower.

  • TheG

    Again, whether or not it is properly labelled “backwater” doesn’t undermine the truth that the town has exactly the quality of elected officials that it deserves. Worse, it has the officials it wants. (Which, without debating semantics, WAS the original point).

  • MN Atheist

    Nice…I haven’t read the whole book (that I am basing my entire life on, and you should too) but I would like to do it in 2014 with all of you.

    Don’t we always say that the fastest way to non-belief is to read the bible? Maybe this will be a good thing!

  • Headless Unicorn Guy

    Oh, yeah. Ezekiel. Dirtiest mouth of any of the prophets. Only wish all the translators didn’t chicken out (and that goes for a lot more than Ezekiel).

  • Spuddie

    No harm, no foul? No harm if you agree with him. Foul if you do not.

    There is harm. It is a declaration of discriminatory intent by the government of the town. It forces the town to expend resources to defend this behavior, which is clearly illegal.

  • SeekerLancer

    I suppose that’s true. I guess I’m looking at it from the perspective of someone who grew up in more rural areas.

  • Fair enough. I’ve spent most of my life in cities (or said backwater suburb of Austin) of well over 1 million people. I’m used to 100,000 people barely qualifying as a city.

  • MarkTemporis

    Kick-ass warriors who are into flowers? Was your town founded by Ser Loras Tyrell?

  • Re: “He did this during the “Public Participation” portion of the meeting, which may mean that he was announcing it as a citizen of the city rather than mayor which is why it’s not on the city website as an official proclamation.”

    That’s true. Technically. In the strictest possible sense. However, in practice, that’s not quite how it worked. What he did was, in his capacity as Mayor and moderator of the meeting, open the session up to “public participation.” But … and this is a very big “but” … he never ceded the floor to any of the public! He mentioned the “public participation” part, but then he stayed there and kept right on going. There was no break. Moreover, when he read the proclamation, he said: “I ask that you join with me, Tom Hayden, Mayor of the Town of Flower Mound, Texas, in Proclaiming 2014 to be the ‘Year of the Bible’ in Flower Mound, Texas.”

    Hence, overtly and in his own words, he made this proclamation in his capacity as “Mayor of the Town of Flower Mound, Texas.” Since he never ceded the proceedings to any other member of the public, the meeting technically had not yet entered that mode. He announced his proclamation while he was in control of the proceedings.

    Lastly, by making an issue of his own reverence for the Bible, he trumpeted his piety and righteousness in front of others, and in the process openly violated his own Jesus’ clear and unambiguous instructions to him:

    “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.” (Mt 6:1)

    Christians ought to be angry at him for his anti-Christian public piety, not lauding him for his “courage.”

  • Sam McMichael

    Ah, that would make everything here about 12x cooler.

  • Sam McMichael

    Your original point, sure. I wasn’t arguing the point that he was an elected official, with his religion as a perceived asset to his constituents. However, to generalize the entire town 1) as so hyper-religious that the entirety approve of this behavior and 2) as “backwater,” and therefore incapable of rational thought or empathy beyond their own point of view, is not only just erroneous, it’s adding to the divisive and detrimental dynamic. I am personally caught in the middle of this literally every day. Describing these people in those terms in just inaccurate, but it probably makes you feel good to think of your opponents as capable of such meager thought and ethical code.

    In another article I read of this whole “year of the bible” debacle, I saw a former friend of mine and a board member at his church express strong dissent. Yes, Texas in general and Flower Mound specifically is incredibly Christian. That does not automatically translate to a desire for this behavior, even among Christians. This is an unprecedented act and, like any political figure, the mayor is not without critics.

    Your radicalization and complete lack of willingness to see the big picture may have just pissed me off.

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