John Hagee: Atheists Can Leave the Country if They Don’t Like Christmas Displays December 26, 2013

John Hagee: Atheists Can Leave the Country if They Don’t Like Christmas Displays

John Hagee, he who says Hurricane Katrina was sent by God to warn us about the dangers of The Gay, he who thinks the Holocaust had some theological merit for nudging those stubborn Jews toward accepting Jesus, would like us all to leave.

Hagee, in this video, begins with the straw man of the atheist who is horrified at being told “Merry Christmas,” gives the usual blather about the U.S. being founded as a Christian nation (it wasn’t), and then suggests that if we don’t like religious displays on government property, we can just leave the country.

But the best part was that he suggests to atheists who don’t want to hear the singing of “Joy to the World” that they “take your Walkman and stuff it into your ears.” Now, for that to work, sir, with all due respect, I’d have to either go back in time and find a Walkman, or else try and procure this vintage piece of electronics through eBay, and then, through some miracle (and I guess we’re cool with those), shove its mass into my ears, the canals of which are obviously far too small to fit an entire Walkman, even if the object were highly malleable or its contents were divided between my two ears.

Got you there, Hagee.

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  • God’s Starship

    Yup. He’s a dick. (I had a Walkman when I was 9. Good times.)

  • The Starship Maxima

    I suppose nobody told him if he was so offended by atheists exercising their rights HE could leave the country.

  • WingsThree

    The guy is a relic, just like the hardware he refers to.

  • squinney

    Well, I would like HIM to leave. So THERE !

  • The beauty of it is, I don’t have to accept religious displays on govt property, and I don’t have to leave the country. I can have my cake–living in the USofA–and eat it too, by just allowing the laws of the country to work. The old man can keep harping about the same nonsense, but it won’t change the facts.

  • Mad_Elf

    I don’t think this is Chris Farley’s strongest work…

  • Or we could, you know, stay here, enforce the law, and fix he country.

  • allein

    I still have my Sony Discman…will that work?

    And I like Christmas displays…I even have a Merry Christmas thing on my door.

  • Camran

    For his information, Iran and Saudi Arabia are nations under god. USA is one nation under constitution.

  • JustaSlob

    Old fat white guy says something indefensibly stupid……Crowd of fat white people cheer.
    Film @ 11

  • Kengi

    I’ve never actually run across an atheist who is horrified at being told “Merry Christmas.” I have, however, run across many Christians who are horrified at being told “Happy Holidays.” In fact there are entire websites dedicated to them and run by them.

  • LesterBallard

    John Hagee: lick my dirty, sweaty taint. Thank you.

  • Look at him. It won’t be long before he goes the way of Jerry Falwell and Andrew Brietbart.

  • Rob P

    I think if Mr. Hagee want to see religious displays on government property, he move to a theocracy like Saudi Arabia.

  • The way religionist types like Sr. Hagee describe this country, its politics, and its atheists, is eerily similar to their religious doctrine. It is based very loosely on real events, but has become legendarily distorted into a narrative of fairy tales and straw men.

  • Jeff

    Do you mean totally ignored, or dead?

  • I meant dead, but I’ll take ignored.

  • ginalex

    LOL! That’s what I was thinking, too!

  • Exactly. If someone said to him, “If you don’t like Roe v. Wade you could always leave the country!”, I’m pretty sure he’d pop a vessel.

  • $324578

    There is nothing good to say about John Hagee. He’s a charlatan. I attended his megachurch several times about 12 years ago, and even in my deepest days of belief, it seemed that if Jesus were ever there, he’d start throwing people out when he reached all the tables vending Hagee’s books at the front door.

  • ginalex

    Kind of funny. I am an atheist. My sister is a christian. My tree is bigger than hers and it has more lights and ornaments. I also went to church on the Saturday before Christmas for a Messiah sing. She didn’t go to church at all this season. Not that I am being critical of her, that’s not my point. I couldn’t care less how Christian she is. My point is that it would seem that Hagee got the idea, that Atheists are horrified by “Merry Christmas”, somewhere on his body where the sun don’t shine.

  • JeromeMac

    I would leave but the mass and gravitational pull of Hagee would pull me back

  • JeromeMac

    So Rob Ford got religion when?

  • trj

    More likely he would blow his load over how vindicated he would feel. Those damn sinful liberals infesting the Supreme Court and destroying America. Just like he told us!

  • Matthew Baker

    The Hagee Checklist for Sermons and Public Statements:

    ✔Make out of date cultural references
    ✔Establish an us vs. them mentality
    ✔Throw out a bible passage that may or may not be related to the topic at hand. Don’t worry that anyone in the audience is going to fact check you.

    ✔Make reference to the impending doom that will be fall America if it doesn’t follow his given brand of Christianity
    ✔Get awkwardly hot and bothered by decrying the gays for stand up for their rights.
    ✔Tell whatever out group you are railing against to get out of the country. Hope that no one realizes that you have made that exact sentiment before. (See Hagee’s sermon from June 2 2012)
    ✔Bonus points if you can mention that Obama is a secret Muslim dictator born in Kenya that out to get your guns and bibles. More bonus points if you can work Hitler into mix some how.

  • Pepe

    You blaspheme too much, Jasper.

  • CanadianNihilist

    wait, we’re not all still using Walkmans?

  • Crysta

    Or Pakistan 😛

  • BrentSTL

    I’ve got two words specifically for Hagee:

    MAKE ME!

  • Clay Weatherfield

    He keeps making these suggestions that atheists should leave the country but I don’t see him offering to kick us out himself. That’s probably for the best.

  • How does that Statue of Liberty plaque go again?

    “Give me your white, your rich, your Christian masses yearning to breathe privilege. Everyone else can just leave.”

    No, that’s not it…

  • Richard Thomas

    One year I got a brand new Walkman for christmas. That year ruled. Thanks for the memories, Hagee. Now go fuck yourself and happy new year 🙂

  • anniewhoo

    Who writes for these guys? Can’t they come up with something better than, “If you don’t like it, you can always leave?” Yawning here, Hagee.

  • Since Hagee’s views on religion and government are much more aligned with countries like Iran or Saudi Arabia, I suggest that Hagee make moving arrangements.

  • Raising_Rlyeh

    What, Paul, you don’t have an extra time machine laying around that you use to procure a walkman?

  • Black Leaf

    He couldn’t go there, their mythology is slightly different from his.

  • Not since it ate the cool mix tape with that song that everyone really liked.

  • I’ve never minded being greeted with “Merry Christmas!”

    What I didn’t care for however is that this year, sometimes it sounded like it was said as a challenge.

  • And I spent most of December playing Christmas concerts with a community band. If I can survive playing Silent Night, Joy to the World and the like with a horde of saxophones and tubas directly behind Me, I’m not even going to flinch at “Merry Christmas.”

  • Tervuren

    I am listening to my Sony Walkman MP3 player as I am typing this. I think the only person who says Happy Holidays to me is a Very Catholic friend who is being sarcastic about my atheism.

  • MadLoaf .

    Many years ago I worked as a security guard at Hagee’s gated community in San Antonio. At the back gate we had to exit the guard house and manually raise a poorly designed drop gate. The residents who entered through the back gate would always smile or wave and acknowledge me as they waited, EXCEPT Hagee. He never made eye contact, never smiled, never acknowledged me. My impression then and now is that he’s a jerk. Is that what being a christian is all about?

  • Tervuren

    Now you are stereotyping all of us old fat white guys.

  • Exactly. First of all, I don’t think it’s the atheists for whom the Christian Privilege Syndrome is a problem. Personally I like all the lights this time of year. It gets dark early and that’s kind of depressing. I also love a good campy house/laws display. But it kind of sucks for people who are not Christian (especially ethnic minorities) to have “you’re not one of us” rubbed in their faces for over a month every year, especially when their taxes help pay for a lot of it. But feel free to wish me a “Merry Christmas”. I’ll respond with an equally cheery greeting of some sort.

  • WallofSleep

    “… gives the usual blather about the U.S. being founded as a Christian nation (it wasn’t)…”

    Jesus, dude. Ever heard of a little thing called a “Spoiler Alert”?

  • Cdb Spender

    I served this country for 7 years. Im an Athiest. I would like to see John Hagee try and make me leave the country. This is a great example of why churches should lose their tax exempt status.

  • imjustasteph

    There are walkman mp3 players.

  • Madison Blane

    I read that as ‘pop a weasel’…and I’m still laughing…this is a good indication that I need some sleep!

  • peter taylor

    Hey, I’m a little overweight I’ll give you that but “old” ?????

  • Madison Blane

    No, no…ask any Christian why they don’t believe Allah is the one true God (TM) and they’ll tell you that Allah is just a foreign word meaning God and it’s all the same person!
    I’ve been hearing this rationalization for years now!

  • Madison Blane

    Wow! The people you meet in the comments never ceases to amaze me! I’m now the friend of friend who has a friend that worked on ‘Third Rock from the Sun’ with Joseph Gordon Leverett and the friend of the Friendly Atheist who has a friend who once worked for Hagee’s gated community (and Hagee’s ‘back gate’ HaHa!). It’s like six degrees of Kevin Bacon…I’m “Almost Famous” now, right?!

  • diogeneslamp0

    Fascists who say the Holocaust was a great thing do not have the right to order the deportation of real Americans who defend the secular Constitution of their secular nation under a secular government.

  • Madison Blane

    This is my husband’s response EVERY time some Bible-forcing cherry-picker tries to tell him that HE should leave this country because he’s an Atheist. And WOW, with the way their patriotism is all wrapped up in the flag, you ought to see them trip over their apologies and rationalizations once they realize they’re dealing with a US Marine!!
    I realize there are SEVERAL ways for us to serve our country – and BTW thank you for your service – but the radicals seem to think disagreement = disrespect and persecution, and they most certainly don’t want to be seen publicly contradicting their big ‘support the troops’ stickers, so they won’t say to a military member the nasty things they say to an average citizen Atheist; they tone it down immediately.

  • peter taylor

    Maybe you read it in a Russian accent…..don’t worry, it happens to the best of us 😉

  • TCC

    Don’t give him any ideas.

  • TCC

    There’s an argument you could make that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the same god (albeit with dramatically different characteristics), but I tend not to hear Christians make it because it makes them less special, less set apart. If they need a way of arguing that of course everyone believes in God, you heathen sinner, then they might pull the “same god” card, but mostly they’re okay acting like they’re the only ones with the right revelation.

  • allein

    I hate that song.

  • “Halloh! Ve are lookink for the nuclear wessels. Can you tell us vere the nawahl base is? In Alameeeda?”

  • They tend to get unreasonably angry and defensive about it, too. I’ve seen Muslims (who generally are much more comfortable with it, which is not surprising given the timing of everything) notice this reaction and use it as a no-effort berserk button for especially annoying Christians.

    “Well, of course we believe in Jesus too (Peace Be Upon Him!), as he was a most holy prophet of the God we all worship…”
    [Christian foams at mouth]

  • MadLoaf .

    And we have another jerk. Thank you, Madison, for your totally irrelevant hostile sarcasm.

  • Mike De Fleuriot

    Must be a follower of Christ…

  • Black Leaf

    Hence “slightly” different 😛
    If Christians can fight within their own denominations, anything is possible.

  • Robster

    The silly twit, that John Hagee, is only bitter and twisted because of his family name. Hagee, it sounds like a breakfast cereal or a shampoo, or perhaps a plastic figure from middle Earth or something. He’s probably wondering if his brain followed the atheists when they left.

  • Carpinions

    They WANT to feel persecuted, so they’ll make up a story and then chain themselves to their strawman while screaming about being oppressed.

    They are pathetic and childish in the extreme.

  • Octoberfurst

    I have had political/religious arguments with people on the Internet and when I tell them I am a former Marine who is an atheist and a liberal they call me a liar and say that is “impossible” because apparently in their little world all REAL Marines are right-wing Bible-thumping Christians.

  • onamission5

    Wait you mean my daughter’s community outreach band was not supposed to play for the residents at our local VA hospital this holiday season because we’re atheists who hate america?

    Damn. I am always getting this stuff wrong. I have to start taking notes or something.

  • Madison Blane

    I wasn’t being a jerk… I’m sorry that you felt otherwise. I honestly find your former experience interesting. There was no sarcastic intent; if it came across differently, I apologize. I’m constantly amazed at the wide variety of personalities and life-experiences in friends’ and bloggers’ comment sections.

  • MadLoaf .

    Thanks for the clarification.

  • Guest

    Jump the gun much?
    She didn’t sound like a troll at all. I understood what she was getting at right away.
    Maybe we could tone down the knee-jerk reactions a bit?
    Makes the “Angry Atheist” claims seem kinda legit…and that’s not what we want right?

  • Rachael Colleen

    Jump the gun much?
    She didn’t sound like a troll at all. I understood what she was getting at right away.

    Maybe we could tone down the knee-jerk reactions a bit?
    Makes the “Angry Atheist” claims seem kinda legit…and that’s not what we want right?


  • Alternate response: Make me.

  • tinker

    hah! I knew you were a trekie!

  • tinker

    But the makeup is great!

  • I would imagine that to be the organ that gets used most often by this moron.

  • Although Uganda is making some headway in the religious discrimination stakes, somehow though i get the feeling he may not feel quite as home in his “Christian Nation” because of it’s “Hue”!

  • Psychotic Atheist

    For what it’s worth Walkman is still a current piece of technology. I have a Walkman, it plays (primarily) mp3s.

  • OjisanSeiuchi

    It’s a very tidy narrative that they use to reinforce cohesion in their group. Never mind that it’s not actually true.

    Personally, my family celebrates Christmas. It’s nobody’s business if we regard it as a completely secular holiday. (For all their grandstanding, most Christians seem to treat it as if it were a secular holiday in actual practice, anyway). I don’t have to believe in Santa to enjoy his familiar iconography. And if some person wishes me ‘Merry Christmas’, I’m likely to respond with the same. Who cares if they think I’m on the same team or not? In any case, the moment of a friendly exchange of greetings isn’t a teachable moment.

    But like others, I draw the line at overtly religious displays on government property.

  • the moother

    After you have procured your Walkman, you’ll still need to find an audio cassette!

  • Cdat88

    Had similar results when I mention I am former Army Ranger. This has even happened face to to face! I always love seeing the “No True Scotsman” defense in the wild.

  • Dan Robinson

    I’m about halfway through Karen Armstrong’s “History of God” and it seems pretty clear that Muslims, Jews and Christians are all worshiping the same god. Early Muslims including Mohamed were perfectly fine with Christians and Jews according to Ms. Armstrong. It’s an fascinating read by the way.

  • Pattrsn

    I imagine there are Christian and Muslim sects whose gods have more in common with each other than with the gods of other Christians or Muslims.

  • Wildcard

    Don’t be silly Max. This country is for Christians and Christians only. Freedom is supposed to me Freedom from Christians having to know that gays, atheists, and other people who don’t agree with you exist.

  • The Starship Maxima

    Live long and prosper my fellow Trekker.

  • DavidMHart

    This is why I like to try and work the phrase ‘Judeo-Christo-Islamic’ into discussions when talking with the kind of people who try to look inclusive by lumping Judaism and Christianity together 🙂

  • QuestioningKat

    Perhaps this is a stereotype, but Hagee clearly is morbidly obese and needs to “tend to his own garden” by taking care of his own problems. He is a finger pointer and stone thrower telling everyone else they need “fixin” but he himself and his God cannot seem to correct an obvious problem. According to his religion, his sin is gluttony and not treating his body like a temple.

  • rwlawoffice

    Why did you change what he said to make your point? He did not say this was founded as a Christian nation. He said it was founded by Christians on Christian principles. His statement is the truth and different from what you have stated he said. The founding fathers were Christians who believed in the Bible and quoted it as inspiration for their beliefs. Some were Diests who did not like organized religion, but certainly were not atheists. They believed in freedom of religion but not a theocracy.

  • MD

    Ben jij Belgische?

  • randomfactor

    And if he can’t live under the Constitution…

  • JustaSlob

    Ha…. sorry man!

  • The Starship Maxima

    Naw, I used to live in the bubble. Then I discovered Real Life. Real Life is better, and the girls are cuter.

  • Quintin van Zuijlen

    The Us was also founded on a principle diametrically opposed by Christianity: the right to self-determination, as opposed to the supposed Divine right of Kings.

  • Fromper

    I think I may still have a Walkman in a drawer somewhere. I wouldn’t bet on it actually working after all these years.

  • Fromper

    I liked that song before everyone else started liking it. Now it’s just too popular.

  • Fromper

    I say Happy Holidays to people if I don’t know what holiday they celebrate. If I know they’re Christian, I say Merry Christmas. If I know they’re Jewish, I say Happy Chanukah. I just try to match the greeting to the person.

    But as an atheist, I certainly don’t get offended by receiving the wrong greeting.

  • Camorris

    Does John Hagee ever smile? He seems so angry while delivering his sermons. I expect he doesn’t interact well with people, and I suspect he might be a bully. I wonder if he stands at the exit door after the service to thank his parishioners for attending?

  • Sue (Yet, She Persisted) Blue

    I’d like to see John Hagee leave my country and quit heating up our atmosphere with his methane-laden exhalations of bullshit.

  • Wildcard

    Really now? I thought the blonde extreme republican girls were always cute in their youth as a rule and it was their personality that put people off.

  • Feral Dog

    Got a funny Christmas shopping story: I was in line at Old Navy, and there was this Muslim lady in front of me. The cashier somewhat nervously goes “Happy… Holidays?” Muslim lady sees the cashier’s little cross necklace and says, “Oh, Merry Christmas!”

    They both had a good laugh and went back to what they were doing.

    I think Hagee’s head would have melted had he seen that.

  • Roger Peritone

    That doesn’t narrow it down at all: Have you seen how big that bloviator’s body IS??

  • aimee00

    What is so difficult to understand? It is not that we do not like the displays, I love them. They would be the first to complain if they weren’t getting fair and equal treatment from the government but they will not even try to wrap their minds around why others insist that government should remain neutral with regard to religion. There is a place for such displays and frankly there is hardly a shortage of christmas displays during the month of december, so I am not really sure why this is even a problem. It seems like it is more distraction away from the real news in order to keep the masses anesthetized to what is really important.

  • He said it was founded by Christians on Christian principles.

    You must have the super-secret Bible where Jesus extolled the virtues of democracy, divided government, religious pluralism, free speech, liberty from arbitrary authority, federalism, the value of science and invention, entrepreneurship, hoplophilia, theft and abuse and murder of natives, the urge to territorial expansion, slavery, pragmatism, peer judgment, property rights, the pursuit of happiness, violent rebellion against tyranny, and the rule of law to some extremely astonished apostles.

    Me, I have a copy where he either cuts deeply against or ignores every one of those. But, hey, maybe it’s the final and most correct hidden interpretation of the Parable of the Mustard Seed. What do I know?

  • Willy Occam

    You had better accept Jesus into your heart unless you want to live in a VAN down by the RIVER!!!

  • rwlawoffice

    Let’s start with the idea that our rights come from God as expressed in the Declaration of Independence. This is clearly a principle expressed in the Christian Bible. Liberty in the individual is clearly a Christian principle. Maybe it is best to relay what the Supreme court found in 1892:

    “If we pass beyond these matters to a view of American life, as expressed by its laws, its business, its customs, and its society, we find every where a clear recognition of the same truth. Among other matters, note the following: the form of oath universally prevailing, concluding with an appeal to the Almighty; the
    custom of opening sessions of all deliberative bodies and most
    conventions with prayer; the prefatory words of all wills, “In the name of God, amen;” the laws respecting the observance of the Sabbath, with the general cessation of all secular business, and the closing of courts, legislatures, and other similar public assemblies on that day;the churches and church organizations which abound in every city, town,and hamlet; the multitude of charitable organizations existing every where under Christian auspices; the gigantic missionary associations,with general support, and aiming to establish Christian missions in
    every quarter of the globe. These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation.”

  • TCC

    Except that Justice Brewer later clarified his position in 1905:

    But in what sense can [the United States] be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or the people are compelled in any manner to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that ‘congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.’ Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or in name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within its borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions.

    He then goes on to enumerate all the Christians that settled in America, which is of course true but not at all what you mean by “Christian nation.”

  • TCC

    Oh, and:

    Let’s start with the idea that our rights come from God as expressed in the Declaration of Independence. This is clearly a principle expressed in the Christian Bible.

    [citation needed]

    I’d be especially impressed if you could find anything that would equate to inalienable rights (unlikely because the God of the Bible takes plenty of opportunities to alienate people from their rights – God giveth and God taketh away, after all).

  • Let’s start with the idea that our rights come from God as expressed in the Declaration of Independence. This is clearly a principle expressed in the Christian Bible.

    The idea of “rights” doesn’t appear in the Christian Bible at all, so it certainly doesn’t speak to a specific species or indices of political rights. The idea that one has a vested right in one’s own life, liberty from outside compulsion, and the free pursuit of property happiness was cribbed directly from Enlightenment thinkers like Locke, who were asserting such and by doing so were overthrowing traditional Christian notions.

    Liberty in the individual is clearly a Christian principle.

    ROFL, definitely not in the sense that the Founders were using it. Not even close. Political liberty, liberty of the person from the power of the state, is not even contemplated in the NT except for Jesus telling his followers to render unto Caesar, and Paul later telling early Christians to submit to governmental authority, even when it is unjust. Even liberty of conscience is a hard circle to square against seventeen hundred years of contrary Christian practice; yet another break from tradition gifted to us by the Enlightenment.

    Or are you going to claim the the Enlightenment was Christian, too? I haven’t had a good cackle in a while.

    And why oh why, if the conversation is about founding principles, are you talking about a ruling that was attempting to describe, a hundred-and-change years later, the civil character of the Nation, not the Nation as it was founded or the principles upon which it is based? Seems off topic. But. Just in case you meant to lean on Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States for your quixotic quest to tie Christianity into any of the civic structure or motivating legal principle of the US, Justice Brewer himself (who wrote your above quoted dicta) also went on to write this in the same opinion [ETA: turns out it isn’t in the same opinion but was said later by Brewer]; see, in order to specifically quash your preferred interpretation:

    But in what sense can it be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or that people are in any matter compelled to support it. On the contrary, the Constitution specifically provides that ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.’ Neither is it Christian in the sense that all of its citizens are either in fact or name Christian. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within our borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all. Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions.

  • Laurence

    Even when it originally had a possibly even stronger religious ring to it. After all, it meant and still means, “Happy Holy Days.”

  • Laurence

    All the while representing 75% of America’s population, even though it was higher 5 years ago, at nearly 80%, and will be at most 70% in another five.
    LOL, majorities playing the victim of an oppression.

  • Laurence

    *Correction: Iran and Saudi Arabia are nations under self-justification manifesting as God in the subconscious so you can say absolutely everything you do is the will of [insert name or censored name of god in whatever religion 99% of the people of your country believe in (or else they get the death penalty, but yeah)]. As long as people have absolute brainwashed faith in the God and suck your dick (no females, because they are inferior in practically every monotheistic religion there is) as a man of an imaginary god and a dirty liar who takes every chance he can get to remain in power (i.e. A typical politician), well, you’ve got what these two countries have.

  • Laurence

    I believe that people 55+ lean Republican slightly as, like 56% vote right-wing.

  • Timothy Smith

    Umm, he never said he was going to try and make anyone leave… he offered it as a suggestion. He was not talking politics but social issues… not at all a reason to argue tax exemptions.

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  • PeterFromBelgium

    Well, American friends, look at it from the sunny side. There are hordes of young people in your country who no longer buy into the whole religion thing. In 20-30 years, that generation will be pulling the strings, and the United States will grow more and more like Europe (on the subject of religion), with true seperation of chuch and state, turning statements like these into career killers. In my country, not even Christians would talk to this man ever again.

  • diogeneslamp0

    Hagee looks worse than Chris Farley ever did.

  • Robyman4

    Or we could stay right where we are and not only continue to speak out loud and clear about what people like John Hagee are doing wrong, but we can do so more and more frequently each and every single time he makes a comment about us. That’s exactly what I’m going to do. I’m not going anywhere at any time or for any reason because I thoroughly enjoy speaking my mind and I don’t care if I hurt the feelings of any religious zealot, nor am I bothered if I point out the absurdity of their position in public. I live in Texas, so for the last 19 years I’ve dealt with a vast array of mindless, irresponsible Christians of numerous denominations who showed me they have little to no character or integrity. That kind of behavior MUST be exposed.

  • Without Malice

    There are gobs of churches not too far from my home; not one of them has a nativity scene on its property. Nearly all my neighbors are Christians and yet none of them have a nativity scene on their lawn. Why is it that so many Christians want to put nativity scenes up on public property but don’t seem to want to put one up at their church or on their own property? It’s rather a puzzle to me.

  • Without Malice

    “Happy Holidays” has been around forever, or at least all of my nearly seven decades of life, and it was never a problem till Fox News came along with its war on Christmas BS.

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