The Unbearable Whiteness of Being (Megyn Kelly): Jon Stewart Skewers Fox News’ Caucasian Persuasion

For a while the vikings controlled much of the Mediterranean so you now find blondes or redheads in Italy, North African, and other areas.

Funny, I am of Finnish origin myself. Have you read “The Seven Brothers” by Aleksis Kivi and “The Kalevala”?

And Shakespearian, King James English at that !!

Yeah, but if you take John Stewart seriously as a news source what does that say about you? This thing started with a racist race baiting black woman, Aisha Harris, who calls whites “melanin-deficient” as if being caucasian is a genetic disease.

I liked Ann Althouse’s take down of this bullshit political correctness:
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/12/taking-ridiculous-racial-issue-and.html

One thing is for sure. Neither Jesus nor Santa was black.

Next thing you know well have sensitive South Africans asking that a neutral symbol like a toucan be used instead of Nelson Mandela. Why? Because he makes some people uncomfortable just like a white Santa and jewish Jesus do. No folks, just because you have a darker complexion as a Greek or a Semite that doesn’t make you an African American as Aisha Harris might think.

Since were using comedians as sources here’s my proof that Santa is white:
http://infolocata.com/mirovia/irrefutable-proof-that-santa-is-odin/

Some people only think in the binary: black and white, left and right, true or false. However none of that matters here as my original post is directed at the rantings of Megyn Kelly who made an incorrect statement about two cultural figures.

That was not what happened in this case. Do you even care about the truth?

Greek.

Oh, I see. You aren’t making arguments when you write “for arguments sake”? You are just ranting? Well I’ll make sure to disregard you in the future. Apparently you can’t support your claims. You are also apparently a not very intelligent because you think having 2000+ posts is evidence of anything. How about you, Shoo, shoo. fly.

I didn’t need to review your entire 2000+ posting history. A sample size for a fortnight was enough.

The past 2 weeks of your posts shows me that you’re most likely a political conservative, are 50+ years of age, have a thing for race bating, trolling, have a tendency to use swear words when you don’t get your way, and enjoy getting into arguments online. When called out on your crap, you resort to name calling, ad-hom attacks, and cherry picking comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM

Yeah, he looks like a white guy, not Samuel L. Jackson, or Aisha Harris. Looks like you provided evidence for Megyn Kelly’s position.

You’ve quickly switched from trolling to harassment.

Wow, you posted well over a 1000+ comments yourself over on other sites with this id. Not that I would be interested in that other than it shows your hypocrisy.

Wait, santa is a fat, white, race-baiting troll?
I was unaware; no more cookies and milk for that guy.

Fact is that fictional characters do have race, and not only that but hair color or baldness, sex, etc. In “Huckleberry Finn” the fictional character Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer white, while Jim black. In Uncle Tom’s Cabin Uncle Tom was black. Kunta Kinte in Roots was black.

This has zero to do with racial purity. Nice try at race-baiting though. This is the same as if a woman dressed up as Santa. The kids are going to ask questions.

Are you really this dense?

I didn’t make the claim that all characters have race. The plural “characters” can refer to more than one yet not all. I made the claim that a particular fictional character, Santa Claus, has race. I also made claims about other particular examples, at which point I used the pural.

Not only does Santa have a race he has all sorts of other characteristics, such as a white beard, obesity, and male. Which is why the black woman who wanted to turn him into a penguin called him a “fat white guy”.
Often not only does the text state such characteristics in books, but they also have pictures of the characters.

“Pointing out your mistakes is not race-baiting.”

You have yet to point out a mistake. Certainly a mistake isn’t “devotion to racial purity”. Your race baiting consists of imputing racist motives to me I do not have.

I don’t in fact care about racial purity, at all. Not one jot. If I did, I would have stated so. I’m quite open with my opinions even when unpopular.

You don’t like the facts I’m stating so you are making up positions for me which I don’t hold. You use straw men, and red herrings. You are dishonest in your argumentation. Next time ask me if I’m for racial purity. The topic never came up.

One can certainly make a “black Santa” character but he wouldn’t be the same fictional character as the original white santa character with a white beard fair skin, etc. Just like you could make a female Santa character who is not the same character as the male Santa.

You are free to do so if you want. It’s a free country. Just don’t expect people to be happy if you advertise your store is providing a Santa for picture taking and you use a woman. People expect Santa to be a white guy because that is what he is. You should advertise with information indicating you are using a woman.

Otherwise they’ll think it was a bait and switch and it would be. Some people will be pissed and maybe not shop there again because you caused the fraud of Santa to be exposed.

Santa isn’t a shapeshifting sex and race changing being in the tradition of Xmas, and people like tradition. That’s the reality. Deal with it.

The Night Before Xmas:

“His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry;
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
And the beard of his chin was as white as the snow;”

I don’t see this as ensuring Santa is white. And I’m pretty sure that the origin of Santa isn’t tied to this story.

If anything, the origin is tied to Saint Nicholas, who was Greek. And of course, some say that Santa is Odin (which is debatable), which would make him white.

But stories written about a fictional character often do have conflicting descriptions about it. Even in the case of the Star Wars EU, with Lucas (or his team) actually reading the books prior to publication, trying to keep contradictions to a minimum, there are some errors still. Now you do this to a character who’s complete origin seems to be a hodge podge of different characters from different myths, with no one really in control of the character and no true ownership, then you can’t say for sure “Santa was White, Black” or whatever.

Isn’t telling children that Santa is real in the first place tricking children?

This conversation reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Stewie gets taken away from the family and is put into a foster home with kids of different races, and then they start talking about Santa being whatever race the kid is.

I’d argue both.

But kids are going to be happy getting presents with or without Santa.

I admit, I get giddy getting my cats to open their presents (they always want to open mine days before Christmas, but not theirs when we give it to them). And the trick we found is accessories (lots of ribbon, and catnip inside the bag).

But when I was a kid, I didn’t care who it was from, or how it was wrapped. They could have just left it in my room on the dresser and I would have been happy.

“Isn’t telling children that Santa is real in the first place tricking children?”

Yes, that is the whole point. You would be messing with what they call “the magic” aka what I call the “the lie” by providing further evidence that Santa doesn’t exist. Try just going up to kids waiting on line to take a picture with Santa and telling them “Santa doesn’t exist” and see how that goes for ya. I’d be interested in seeing you do it to some black kids too. I’m wondering how many parents punch you in the nose, scream at you, and how many kids you get to cry.

I’ve known lots of kids who got upset (or in denial) when told Santa doesn’t exist. Crying and everything.

brianmacker,

“What are we tricking the children about?”Oh, come on, that he exists.

I do not tend to go for the easy answer. I am not defying Occam’s razor, but trying to understand all aspects that are relevant.

I think that the physical appearance of Santa is as malleable as the children want it to be.

If white kids want a white Santa, because that is what they are familiar with, they have no shortage to choose from.

If white kids want to wander above 125th St and expect to see a white Santa, they are being just as unreasonable as expecting to stay up late enough to see Santa come down the chimney.

Do we need to make sure that all Santas are white?

Do we need to make sure that all Elvis impersonators are white?

That is not unreasonable, because my favorite Elvis impersonator recently died and he is Egyptian, so not your classic white guy.

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Are you even from the US?

I am from the US and I am odd (not even).

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