Christian Right Leader Happy About ‘Drive-Thru’ Bully Losing His Job

Of course if it had been a Christian who got canned for bawling out an employee of some business that supports LGBT equality Fischer would be whining about the “PC Police” and the way people can’t even express their views about “traditional values” without risk of being persecuted, blah blah blah.   

 Yes, and one no amount of bleach will remove.

I haven’t watched the video, and I am definitely on the side of those who are boycotting. But the drive-thru guy was a world class dick. Hassle corporate management, hassle owners. But leave the teenagers and minimum wage workers alone. I worked at a lot of shitty jobs over the years, especially restaurants, and I rarely had any love for my corporate masters. I was just trying to scrape together a living. Let’s make sure we’re directing messages to right people.

 I don’t think anybody is defending Smith’s actions.  It’s the part about him losing his job over it they’re up in the air about.  Yes, he was a jerk but he didn’t do it on company time or as an agent of his corporation so firing him seems a bit extreme.   And while Bryan Fischer is having a party over this, he’d be the first one crying foul if a Christian had been fired for berating a Starbucks employee because Starbucks supports marriage equality.  

Get real….. Smith was not being a “dick” – he was actually very polite. Strident in getting his point across, but having seen the vid these accusations that Smith was in any way dickish are just ridiculous.

Strangely  haven’t yet seen, in any of the reports, the lass concerned complaining about how “rude” Smith was to her. She just looked embarassed and like she wanted to say… “yeah I agree but its a job and I need the money”.

And compare his actions and words with those of the customers who had cued up for their hate burgers and were proudly flying their ignorance, bigotry and Kristyhun Famlee Valoos at whatever news camera they could find.

And one final point…. consider that the overwhelming majority of customers in the same cue Smith was in … the car in front and the long line behind him, were probably there to go honk honk on their horns and cheer a hearty “Yee Haw….F U GAY FAGS! Yur Gunna Burn!”

By the STATE, Duffy. There’s a difference. 

Whether or not he was on the clock is irrelevant. He’s an executive at his company and they thought that his actions would reflect badly on them if they did not do something about it.

Would you want to do business with a company you knew was run by assholes?

Chik-fil-A-hole supporters are deliberately conflating criticism from government with private criticism. It’s the only way they have any argument, by pretending they’re martyrs.

I guess since I’ve seen more than one case of people who speak out against gays losing their job in recent years, don’t see the unique issue here.  It’s the way of our country.  And it’s not just the pro gay or anti gay issues.  We are a country growing tired and impatient with all this freedom and liberty garbage.  Increasingly, we see rights as something earned, largely by agreeing with us.  The Bill of Rights is values based: have the right values, or you don’t have rights. Oh, everyone denies we want to impose our values on others, but it would take an idiot not to see that’s exactly what a growing number of people want.  Again, it would be ridiculous to say it’s only liberals or pro gay or any such thing that is behind it.  It’s a lazy, intellectually foppish generation that doesn’t have the stones to wade into the arena of debate, and so just wants an end run to winning the argument: punish anyone who disagrees with me (just don’t punish me of course). 

Because there are many issues in all this.  When the mayors jump in, it’s censorship.  When Andrew Sullivan and Jon Stewart agree with conservative Christians that it’s censorship, that argument is finished.

I am uncomfortable with the idea that an employer has this much say over what an employee can say and do off the clock and off the property of the employer. I can understand the employer’s concerns about a perceived representation, but it’s a measure of serfdom that I don’t like.

I would not. Which was the point of people boycotting Cfa until this guy was an asshole to an innocent bystander.

If you think Fischer is happy now, just wait to see his delight if Romney wins in November.  This man is full of HATE.  Nothing but HATE.

I think an explanation to the employee as to why they as his employers were peeved,  a warning and a request not to be dick  would have been appropriate. Smells like wrongful dismissal to me.