Chick-fil-A ‘Drive-Thru Bully’ Publicly Apologizes

Usually, any apology that continues after the ‘I’m sorry part’ begins to drop on the sincerity meter.  It’s best to say ‘I was wrong, sorry…the end.’ 

If you go to any Christian blogs, you’ll see most already have – though some are cautious to say it’s really up to the young girl to forgive, since she is the one that has been dragged into the public arena (fortunately her kindness and grace has not really hurt her any).  But yes, even the day it was posted, I noticed on several sites that Christians were feeling pity for him and saying they didn’t want harm to come to him.  All Christians?  Probably not.  But atheists or pro-gay advocates probably wouldn’t want to be associated with some of the meaner things said during all this either.

I watched his original video. I thought calling it “bullying” was a stretch, and he never accused the server of being a “hater” herself, I just thought he didn’t know when to stop talking. 

A little wordy with an attempt to rationalize but good for him. I agree he seems sincere and I applaud him for stepping up. Also, his suggestion that we can get along better without the name calling is very true for both sides of this issue. But from your most recent post it appears that this will only be taken in one direction- Christians can’t call names, but it is appropriate and important to call them bigots to further the cause.

Bullying doesn’t always imply a schoolyard bully or name calling.
bully (verb) – to be loudly arrogant and overbearing.

The fact that he wouldn’t stop talking is really the main bullying part. Someone who is bullying you in a conversation corners you and just won’t drop whatever you were talking about in order to prove themselves right.

In my opinion, he shouldn’t have made an apology at all if he wasn’t willing to lay aside his ego.

 What do you mean “Christian apology”?  Is the guy a Christian?

And fuck atheists…they killed millions when they had the chance.

I predict they will do it again.

What a MORON… Just because someone doesn’t support the degenerate lifestyle of the gay community does NOT make them anti-gay and doesn’t mean they are attacking the gay community.  It’s the gay community who is attacking people and trying to force their sicko lifestyle on everyone else.  We don’t have to tolerate their ignorance or their demands that we subject ourselves to their depraved lifestyles.

Either you’re blind or full of shit. Probably both.

No one’s asking you to like gays or even accept them. We’re TELLING you that what you’re doing is bigoted. By all means avoid gays. Just get out of the way of human rights FOR ALL.

BTW, “gay” isn’t a lifestyle, it’s an orientation. As in biologically hardwired. In comparison, you CHOSE to believe in an angry, petty sky fairy that’s all about eating the body of a dead Jew. Which “lifestyle” do you think has more “sickos” in it?

 If you have a problem with calling out bigotry, that’s your unearned martyr complex, and not related to anything we’ve said. We’re well aware of your logical shortcomings already, and can work out the major consequential moral failings that derive from them without any further help.

 Nobody ever killed in the name of atheism. You’re thinking of people who killed in the name of Fascism, Marxism, Stalinism, Maoism… ideologies that are religious in execution.

Learn to read and logic, please, whiner.

Read his comment.  By using quotes he was specifically suggesting that this is something that is somehow unique to a Christian version of an apology.  By the way, for future reference, the highest number possible has been discovered, and it’s the number representing how often the term straw man is used in internet discussions, whether it applies or not.

An excellent point. This is at least partly the result of the normalization of Christianity and its values in U.S. society, which is EXACTLY what the fundie Jesus freaks want. They WANT the vilification of gays to be normal; they WANT women to be subservient and to have their bodies controlled by male insecurities; they WANT the rights of the individual to be subordinate to the whims of an authoritarian theocracy. There’s probably a race issue in there as well…

Because this sabotage of human rights is so egregious, I’ve long ago given up any interest in being civil when I deal with theists. Until they confine their values to their churches and their homes, it’s important that we crush their every effort to normalize THEIR religion in OUR society.

Of course! You aren’t anti-gay just because you think gays are “degenerate,” “depraved,” and have a “sicko lifestyle.” Makes perfect sense. Really.

How exactly do you define “anti-gay,” then? What do you have to do and/or believe to be classified as such?

there is no justification for screaming at someone barely paying their bills at their job. I think Cathy’s position is  outdated and dopey, but sanctimonious assholes screaming their politics at working stiffs is beyond the pale. I wouldn’t even bother going to a Chick-fil-a.  Id love for people to check out the business and labour practices of companies whose stuff they actually buy.

Or are you just selectively ignoring history. The goal of Stalin was to build a secular society free from religion as an athirst state. So I know you don’t like it but calling it by a different name doesn’t change the facts. Spin it how you and Sam Harris want but its bs. Stalin killed to create an atheist secular society. It matters not that he also wanted the population to worship the state .

I’m glad he recognized what he did was wrong and owned up to his mistake. It takes a big man to come on camera and do this. You’re not going to see Chik-Fil-A apologize for their bigotry.

FWIW, I agree that saying “atheists killed millions” is missing the point. In turn, so is calling Fascism, Marxism etc “religious”.

But even more importantly, it’s very important to separate out the lies that people tell themselves which allow them to commit atrocities from the actual reasons, which are often far more complex and subtle than “religion bad”. The Bush administration killed thousands in the name of “freedom”, “democracy” and “security”. On the other hand, nobody was ever killed in the name of Methodism, Jainism or atheistic forms of Buddhism.

It was still a dick move regardless.

Stalin actually revived the Orthodox Church to intensify patriotic support for his war effort. Because of this the Orthodox Church colluded with Stalin in his vision of a new Soviet Union, and the church actively supported him.

He might have been an atheist himself, but no matter how you spin it, Robert, he had no such ideals to create a society without religion. Religion was too much of a tool for him.

Another point is that he never committed his crimes “in the name of atheism” or becaus of “the will of atheism”. He commited his crimes because he was a psycopathic megalomaniac.

Christianity, on the other hand, is directly responsible for the deaths of millions. When a leader says war or murder is just because “it is the will of God” or justifies war and murder by doing it “in the name of God”… well, that’s a war based on religion.

You’re not gay.  Right.  First thing you should do is stop lying to yourself.

No one’s forcing you to do anything, you lying sack of shit.

Stalin crafted a state religion when he pumped up the church so it could help him send more people to die in war. Try again, Known Liar.

If you were able to reason things out, you’d realize that you just argued that you and your religion are responsible for Islamic terrorism. But that’s never been your thing.

 Sidray, it’s because religious displays on public land are illegal according to the U.S. Constitution. They are nothing more than a way to create out-groups upon which the majority can focus tribalistic contempt and censure. In other words, they’re a power play for the dominant religion, used to take over our government and pervert its purpose and function.

The U.S. wasn’t based on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Those beliefs are antithetical to our founding document. If you look at the Constitution and compare it to the Bible, you’ll find that almost everything in the Constitution was adopted to fix religious traditions (like the “divine right of kings”) or is irrelevant to those traditions (like freedom of the press, when the “press” didn’t exist when the Bible was compiled).

Our nation was founded on principles from (pagan!) Roman law filtered through English culture, on Greek philosophy, and on Enlightenment values, all of which run counter to Christianity.

The useful morality in the Bible is a tiny percentage of the whole. Google “Jefferson Bible”. Thomas Jefferson trimmed away what he considered the bad parts of that huge text and was left with (iirc) 27 pages. Turn to a random page and you’re a hundred times more likely to find an account of someone being murdered for no good reason and God being okay with it or even ordering the deed, or women being treated like garbage, or superstition palmed off as science or medicine, as you are to find a good life lesson.

There is a lot of latent anger from gays about anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle period. We all have a right to disagree and talk among our peers or support people and groups that agree with our beliefs andvalues as long as its peaceful. The first amendment was not created to give people the right to abuse or violently attack anyone cause they disagree no matter which side your on. The sad thing is some people get involved cause they want to stir up trouble and thst is happening on both sides in situations like this.