Dave Silverman Goes on FOX News to Discuss Obama’s ‘Attack’ on Christianity

Anyone have any links for HHS Mandate that isn’t from a Christian point of view?

 how about the unnecessary “God bless you, David,” at about 3:30 haha

I can completely understand why Christians feel persecuted in this country.  I mean, they’re under attack from all corners.  Look at the two young women who were just shot (one dead) in Portland, Texas, possibly because they were Christi- no, wait, it’s probably because they were lesbians.  Christians don’t have to fear for their lives and well-being simply because of who they are.  Get the fuck out of here with your second-class citizen bullshit.  That you could even suggest that’s how you feel shows us how out of touch you are with the truly marginalized.

“He doesn’t understand that people of faith feel like “second-class citizens” under this administration.”

WAAAAA We don’t get to push everybody else around like we used to! It’s not fair! It’s not! It’s not! It’s not! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

What a complete bitch. Does she always talk over her guest when they are making their point and just cut them off? If Silverman hadn’t been on the show I never would have made it to the end.

With all of the banter, they couldn’t answer his one simple question. Silverman FTW – once again!

Wahhh, other people of other faiths get to lead happy lives, My God makes says I am a sinner who doesn’t deserve happiness, therefore I am a second class citizen!

Now it all makes sense 

I was making the same faces as David when she went on her tangent!

…And the most annoying bitch of all time award goes to!!!!!!!!!………(drumroll) 
Laura Ingraham!!!!!!!!!

You’re exactly right. Christian privileged is slowly dying and like all formerly held powers, the people want it back. 

Laura Ingrahm’s arguments are absurd. Is President Obama responsible for the content on tv? Also, American Christians feel like second class citizens? Isn’t this the group who wants to amend the constitution to deny certain citizens the right to marry who they want to? Isn’t this the crowd that wants to force women to carry pregnancies to term regardless of their wishes or risks to their health?

Just who are the second class citizens?

I guess I don’t watch enough cable news to understand what the hell is going on here. Why are they jamming a 30 minute conversation into under 5 minutes? How did hit and run discussion become popular like this? I guess it suits the people with the undefendable positions well.

I kept thinking of the recent CNN interviews.  What a difference a network makes.

Every time that I see Dave Silverman going up against these “devout” on TV, I like him even more. He does an amazing job of staying on message and presenting the case. I can’t think of a better spokesman who can handle soundbite after soundbite session than him (and that is a compliment – most Atheist spokesmen aren’t the “soundbite” type, or haven’t been trained to be).

We absolutely cannot ignore the religious “hard done by” act. This disrespectful behavior is beneath any rational adult. Like any individual or group, they are fighting to keep what they have come accustomed to. If they were true Americans, instead of “God before Country” Americans they would be completely behind the 1st Amendment.

Those that care more about their house than the sand beneath it, will end with nothing.

Or how about I’ll pray for you. How arrogant can a person get thinking they have a line to a supreme being.  

“You have confused a war on your religion with not always getting what you want”
Jon Stewart

I just about lost it when she insisted that Obama must be anti-Christian because there is a movement going on that says he’s anti-Christian. Well…that wasn’t the question, was it? If you had asked Silverman, “Do you think other people see Obama as anti-Christian?” and he said no, that response would make sense. But she’s just saying that a lot of people feel that way, and since they’re on her side, they must be right.

Oh, they can list plenty of examples where they think they are discriminated against. Like being forced to follow the law and not getting some exemption from it. Of course none of them are actually discrimination.

Please do not use the term “bitch” – it’s a misogynistic term used to perpetrate patriarchy.  Christian privilege may not exist, but you’re showing your male privilege.

what a bitch. She only talked over dave the whole time. Why invite him on the show then. Great example of inequality.

Would you prefer he use “asshole” or something?

I used the word bitch for her as well…and I’m a female. I used it because it applied perfectly.

Best moment for me was some very skillful work on Silverman’s part to stick to point and not get trolled.

Silverman: It doesn’t mean we’re going to become an anti-religious nation It means-

Ingraham: [cutting off] -But you would prefer that

Silverman: -melting pot.  What? No, No I would not prefer that.

Ingraham: [incredulously] Why?

Silverman: [ignoring] What we need to do is get to a point where people can be who they are and not be judged simply on that fact.

Her expression and tone on that “Why?” says volumes.  She is demonstrating the point he’s making.  She completely misunderstands his motives, and can’t fathom anything other than her own projection.

We have “bitch” for women, we have “asshole/dicks” for men: Seems pretty equal to me. 

 I wander if she feel the same way about the results from the same survey showing an increase in the percentage of people willing to vote for a qualified candidate who happen to be female or catholic, some of them may even be willing to vote for a female catholic like Laura Ingram.

 Only in theory. In practice, “bitch” is a slur that carries the cultural connotation, “Her concerns can be dismissed because she is a hateful female.” “Bastard”, “Dick”, and “Asshole” don’t carry any significant baggage.

This does make me wonder: why don’t we use “asshole” to insult a woman? A few people do, but I mean in general.

Up until now atheists have pretty much been unelectable in this country. Now slightly more than half of the population in certain demographics are willing to vote for an atheist…finally. But Christianity is under attack, right. Gotcha. And as usual, the FAUX “news” host cuts off the evil atheist because he is making valid points and she has no way to refute those points other than to cut him off and spin it as fast as possible to try and make the atheist look dumb/wrong/bad. Fair and unbiased, right. Gotcha. SMH

And those arrogant people are the best case scenario, given the number of times “I’ll pray for you” is clearly code for “Fuck you, I’m only saying I’ll pray for you to try to get under your skin”

Oh you are out of your fucking mind. Grow up.

What about gay men?  Or is bitch one of those words we should just never call anyone, along with ‘faggot’, ‘nigger’, ‘retard’ and ‘redskin’?

I understand where you’re coming from; I really do. I get a sort of knee jerk reaction when I hear that word, because I’m used to it being used in a sexist way. I typically hear women being called bitches for being assertive, but men would never be called out for the same behavior. It’s really fucking annoying.
However, I do think that this case is different. She’s not being insulted for not acting like a proper woman. She’s being insulted because she’s very obviously taking sides, not listening to what Silverman has to say, and then saying condescendingly that he just wouldn’t understand because he’s an atheist.
That earns her the bitch label. Or an asshole. Or just a very mean, stupid woman if you don’t want to swear.
I’m sure there would still be plenty of insults thrown at Bill O’Reilly if he had done the interview and cut Silverman off like that. O’Reilly’s a dick.

It depends on the context. Here the word isn’t used based on stereotypes about women or their behavior as it is in other cases. That should be ok

I think there is an analogy that needs to be made more often… and perhaps it has but I’ve missed it… I think our demanding equal footing in this nation needs to be compared to the plight of african-americans during the civil rights movement.  When confronted with the statement, “people of faith feel like second-class citizens under this administration”, Dave and others need to ask if white americans were made second class citizens in assuring equal rights of colored peoples.  I realize there will be some who say “Hell yeah!”, but I doubt we’ll ever make headway with them anyway.  In this, I’m talking to people who consider themselves fairly open minded but who have bought into the fear mongering pandered by fox news.

Yeah, an atheist wouldn’t know what it’s like to feel like a second-class citizen in this country.

To people of faith, it’s only when they don’t get to run everything and legally discriminate against everyone else that they start whining about “feeling like second-class citizens”.  After all, it’s not like they actually face any discrimination or lack any civil rights.  

 How about we stop using gendered insults altogether? Why can’t we just call people assholes? Everybody’s got one, lots of people are one.

 I’m not sure I understand why any atheist would go on Fox News… it’s pretty obvious that this is the kind of treatment you’ll get if you choose to go there.