The Christian Version of a Kindle

Sounds like a general 7″ Android tablet for less money than an e-reader. Bibles aside that doens’t look too shabby.

i had that app on my android, it’s free in the marketplace, it actually is a good bible app (for bookmarking those passages you may need to whip out)

What, no built-in internet filter? And who knows…maybe it will make Christian fiction more readable. Hmmm. Probably not.

 Hm, the one and only inerrant word of God. In 27 versions.

Well, you know the Kindle Fire represents Hell, and Nook is similar to nookie, which is naughty…

Let’s see: Android 2.3 on a tablet, no 802.11n, a resistive screen with only 80 percent the resolution of its competitors, a restricted browser, and some apps that are free anyway if I even wanted them. I think I’ll pass.

Well now you’ve got me thinking of the “Find your nook” commercials in a new light… 😉

Except you can get a similar low end Android tablet from AliExpress for $64-100…

Christian leaders are bold, since actually reading the bible has been known to diminish belief.

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2012/06/22/the-bible-is-boring-and-insipid/ 

I certainly agree that atheists would need a “pre-installed Bible” to factually QUOTE FROM, since Christians sure as hell don’t know what that pathetic excuse of a book says! 

My first look at this site.  “Friendly???” yet the first thing I see is what looks like ridicule….”I pity the kid that gets this for Christmas” “Christians aren’t cool… D rated”… hmmm?

It’s easy to ridicule anyone who has taken the risk of going “on record” about anything… but what about helping that person… regardless of whether they have said something you believe… even know is wrong… without mocking them… how about actually trying to help them… or are they just too far gone?  You can always tell a believer… you just can’t tell them much… seems a tad closed minded.

 1. Buy one for teh lulz
2. Install Ubuntu Satanic edition on it
3. ???
4. No prophet

Hence the resistive screen – you’ll spend money on the thing, but will get too tired of the ‘press’ (didn’t work) press (still didn’t work) press HARD (ok, it worked) cycle to actually read anything.

We’re atheists, we go where the evidence leads. The evidence says this *is* an inferior product, ergo we ridicule said product. You also can’t deny that Christian products have had a history of… shall we say being quite inferior.

Nothing in this article makes fun of your face, but rather of the facts of the matter: This is a poor product, a poor purchase, and just another in a long string of poor products marketed to Christians.

Thanks.  it’s been a while since I was there.  I’ll see what’s up. 

I don’t think I was postulating anything… certainly not a “god of yours”.  I’m asserting (with others) that the probability cooeficient for superior intelligence is 1.

We are fast approaching a reality where absolute certainty will be known through simulation long before it will be or could be directly experienced.

Even now we have sufficient “data” (not physical or prima facie evidence) to make some of those calls.  I suppose my question is more…  “what is the mathematical support for an atheistic view”.

Also… maybe it’s just me but I still detect a general note of derision… even here in your writing… why?   BTW… to your point about easily disproving deist/Abrahamic gods… it’s not only not easy to prove/disprove something doesn’t exist… it is in fact… impossible.

You make my point.  Let’s not be like most people… in fact let’s stop compariing ourselves to them…. let’s instead lead by example.  Stop being argumentative and stick to plain logic/common sense/socratic teaching methodology.  Let the misinformed declare themselves and then question them so they paint themselves into the non-sensical corner you assert they belong.

 Really, Imeubu, do you think you’re clever?  That bullshit whine of yours pops up all the time.  I’m not aware of any instance where the idiot making that whine even pretended to have any idea what the word “friendly” even means.  The only reason people whine about this site not being friendly is that their faith is too weak to survive the slightest dissent.  And if your faith is that worthless, why should it deserve any response other than ridicule, derision, and pity?

Got it… thanks

Believe me I get that.  My “mission” though is to get us to simply “question” not “teach” or “debate”. 

So you tell me that an angel told you to run naked through the streets yelling “sale at Macey’s”.  “How exactly did that happen?”

I’ve found… it’s less maddening, less stressful and it separates the crazy and irrationally devoted from the rational and intellectually able very quickly.  You continue to question the idiots using four or five worded questions while engaging the more rationale and entertaining ones with respectful and serious enquiry.

BTW… to your point about easily disproving deist/Abrahamic gods… it’s not only not easy to prove/disprove something doesn’t exist… it is in fact… impossible.

Not at all.  For example, let me make the claim that I have four arms.  This is obviously absurd and it would be easy to prove that I only have two arms by looking at me in person.  Those extra arms do not exist and their nonexistence is very provable.

Similarly, Christian mythology is filled with inconsistencies and claims that seem absurd and conflict with observed reality, and the only way Christians are able to reconcile that with the real world is by asserting that the parts of the bible that are impossible are simply metaphorical.

 You really seem to missing the essential point. JohnnieCanuck put it like this: “Since it is you that postulates the existence of this creature, it is up to you to provide the supporting evidence.”

Basically, we don’t have to nor should we have to prove that crazy claims are false, instead, those who make those claims should prove them right. Therefore:

“what is the mathematical support for an atheistic view?”

and

“to persuade me you would have to prove that what I’m seeing and feeling is all there is”

Are not worth pursuing. Atheists don’t claim their views are right. We simply state that there is no evidence that the theistic views are right. And until the theists come up with some evidence, we’ll keep stating that.

If somebody thinks there’s something more than what you’re feeling and seeing, then they need to find a way to prove it. As I pointed out initially, the burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claims, not with the disbelievers.

With faith the size of a mustard seed you can get four hours talk time.

That’s not how science works.  We do not operate based on what we feel might be probable.  Here’s how the process goes:
1)  Start from nothing.
2)  Make a hypothesis about something.
3)  Develop a way to test that hypothesis.
4)  Run the test.
5)  Change your hypothesis based on the observed results.

If you are going to assert than there is something more than what we can “see and feel”, then it’s up to you to postulate a way to test that and prove it. Of course, we already know there are lots of things we can’t directly see or feel, like bacteria, radiation, and atoms, so you’re going to have to be more specific than that.

We spend a lot of time/resources pursuing things for which we do not have evidence… but do have rational reason to believe… Higgs, Dark Matter etc…

As for it being a burden best borne by those who question… well that just leaves me a little sad.

I think quality is best obtained through clarity.  When I ask a question I’m trying to clarify… not necessarily persuade.  Most of us will resist someone who seeks to convert rather than simply answer our questions.  When I reach out to proactively seek answers… it’s another story.  Some answers can be very persuasive.

I need (I think) mathematical rationale for any serious thought experiment… including “is that real?”  I’ve not heard one for athiesm whereas I have for all other major observations and/or lack of.

 Just remember, it’s not really lying as long as you’re Lying For Jesus™!

 It probably has a self destruct mechanism that make it explode if you type the activation code H I T C H E N S.

Yep, but yours is made by heathen communists…. Not Christians paying heathen communists to work in sweat shops.

 > “I pity the kid that gets this for Christmas”

I would too. In my professional opinion as a senior technologist with 24 years experience, its specs are deficient and resistive touch screens are lousy. The poor kid who gets this for christmas has a crappy tablet with an irritating screen, probably running an out of date version of Android, and not supported by the Google Market. They have my pity too. For less money their parents could have bought them something better.

A kid whose parents are more interested in getting them something “christian” than something quality has parents who aren’t very bright, and I pity them for that too.

> “Christians aren’t cool…”

They aren’t. Go find the “christian” version of any secular thing, like any style of music for example, and you’ll find the “chrsitian” version is invariably an apparently cheap knockoff and never achieves the sort of popularity (coolness) the secular original does.  It’s objectively measurable that christian products are not cool. Whether you think that fact is good or bad is your own decision.

First point is exactly correct as I see it.  It’s not about the child being Christian it’s about the product being crap.  I’m not sure that view is what was intended by the author or what was perceived by most readers.

Second point – again semantics with “cool”… I agree from a secular perspective… they are not… but I sense the observation was intended to be hurtful rather than demographic.

What a strange chart that it has 4 categories that don’t show any differences between the four (front & rear cameras, 3G, bluetooth).  What pointless filler.  Where is “Waterproof to 50 meters: No, No, No, No”?

On the other hand  “Integrated Stand” totally makes up for all the other shortcomings.  Checkmate successful e-readers!

*snortle-choke-cough*

 Your concern has been noted.

OK – if you are going to waste $$$ on something that might not be “all that and a bag of chips”, save $80 and try http://www.mcbub.com/item/7-Inch-AllWinner-A13-1-5GHz-Android-4-0-Tablet-PC-512MB-RAM-4GB-McPad-F1-Capacitance-screen-WIFI-Camera-Black–CP147739–147995/

I have no idea if this thing is a piece of crap, but just by virtue of not being weighed down with 24 versions of the bible, it has to be better….

 Okay, now you’ve made a claim. Why should we think that higher intelligence can most probably be explained?

Considering we have no recorded scientifically valid evidence (as far as I know, correct me if I’m wrong) of such a thing, the most logical null hypothesis to me seems to be that there isn’t a higher intelligence.

Always remember, exceptional claims require exceptional evidence.

That’s just the point is it? A non-Christian parent would never buy this lousy excuse for a tablet for their child. Hence it only affects children of Christians. Get it? It’s definitely an issue of demographics.

 I’m a furry. Yes, I have human ears, in the usual location. My brain, however, is expecting something quite… different.

I love how the linked bible on Amazon contains Cross-References. Wouldn’t really be complete without them!

I’ll weigh in as both a Christian and Capitalist.  It seems to me that the Edifi makes some sacrifices in it’s inner workings in favor of lower price and having some pre-installed apps and books. 

For purchases like this, there is no one-size fits all.  That’s why all burgers are not Big-Macs, or why all big-box stores aren’t Wal-Marts.  This just adds to the choices available to us consumers and that’s good.  Let the collective wisdom of the marketplace decide whether it’s a good product or not.

A couple casual observations.  I’d personally prefer to pay a little more for higher resolution and a capacitive touch screen.  I’d also prefer to start with more of a blank slate like the Kindle or Nook.  Not terribly impressed with 27 Bible translations.  I’d rather 27 people have one Bible than one person have 27.  Don’t need the internet radio.  Although I sometimes listen to Air-1 in the car, I find the best Christian music doesn’t make it to the radio.

I’m not sure that is correct… maybe so…  but if the 21 software programs were games then I’m not so sure.

I refering to other “thinking” strategies currently employed in other discipines such as in  simulation modeling work where math folks are using algorithmic expressions of “thought experiments” to determine the probability of such things as Higgs, rocky planets, social science, disease control etc… Similar to the utility thinking of Moore’s law used in estimating the power/capabilities of future computer configurations . 

i find it ironic that their operating system is from a company that supports homosexuals and  has a campaign called legalise love, which tries to get various governments to give them marriage rights.