Aziz Ansari: ‘I’m Not a Religious Person’

Except Aziz in an interview on Conan admitted that his “fuck you” response made him sound like an idiot.

Rivera’s comment was just plain silly.   No one ever judges anyone based on dress.  Never.   Hell, men are constantly driving up to nuns on the street assuming they are prostitutes.  Leftist statistics prove that out.   Nuns are solicited as often if not more so than streetwalkers dressed in skimpy outfits.   So obviously it could not have been that Trayvon’s dress hightened Zimmermans concern about what exactly he was doing out in the rain in the middle of the night checking out the neighborhood (from Zimmerman’s perspective).
 
Actually, I thought the fact that 6’2″ 160 pound Trayvon sucker punched, mounted and slammed the head into the ground of a fat hispanic democrat who was armed with a gun was a more critical factor in his justified killing than the fact that he was wearing a hoodie. 

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If the Christians and  the atheists ever have a talent show competition, we are going to kick their asses.

I’m not a Republican.   I’m an idependent and an atheist.   Poe’s don’t usually involve using the facts.    I hope you don’t actually believe that NBC or ABC is any better than Fox News.    NBC has already fired the idiot who falsely edited the 911 tapes in a way that would make Michael Moore proud.   ABC has backed off on it’s claims about Zimmerman’s wounds.   They’ve also backed of on the interpretation of Zimmerman’s saying “It’s fucking cold”, as being “Fucking coons”.   I suggest you bring yourself up to date on the facts of this case before assuming something is a poe.

You really shouldn’t trust organizations that show you 4 year old pictures of a guy who is old enough to join the army.

You know another thing that just crossed my mind is how people seem to carry in their mind the idea that the police both instructed Zimmerman not to follow as some kind of command, and yet at the same time believe the police conspired to help Zimmerman cover up a murder.    Doesn’t that cause cognitive dissonance?   Shouldn’t the police have order Zimmerman to follow and gun down Martin if this was a conspiracy to kill black kids?  

The idea that a hispanic democrat gunning down a black kid is evidence of a war on blacks by whites or republicans is beyond ridiculous and especially when you look at crime statistics.     Given the white (72.4 %) to black (12.6 %)  population ratio, and black on black (94%), vs white on black murder rates (<6%),  whites would need to multiply their murder rate of blacks by around 90 to catch up with blacks.    A black man if rational should fear being murdered by a black far more than a white.   Well unless that white man happens to be wearing a white pointy cap.      Note that the same is NOT true in the other direction. 

Parse my comment again with sarcasm in mind.  Also take context into account.    I’m mocking Asari for assuming Riveria didn’t have a valid point about dressing in a hoodie not being a good idea.   Same goes for baggy pants and tatoos all over your face.     You dress like a “gangsta” with tatoos all over your body and people might get the message you are trying to send.   I, quite politically incorrectly, believe that dress does send a signal.   

 I’ve been following this case very closely and it seems to me that you have a few of your key facts wrong, or have been misled as to their authenticity.

The first problem with you statement is that the call you’re talking about was not actually a 911 call. Zimmerman didn’t call 911, he called the police non-emergency number and was speaking to the desk Sergeant, not just a 911 operator. If his being told by the Sergeant “We don’t need you to do that” could be considered an order, and it could easily be argued that it was, then yes he could be charged for disobeying an officer.

Number two, the only person to have actually seen anything and come forward the day of the incident was a little boy under the age of 14 (I don’t remember the specific age right now). He was going out to walk their family dog when he saw somebody standing over somebody else. When he told that to the police, they asked him if it was Zimmerman standing, and the boy said yes. In most cases questions like that can be considered leading the witness and definitely bring the conclusions into question. All other witnesses so far are questionable because of how long it took them to come forward.

The only thing we really know for sure is that Zimmerman was following Martin. At some point, there was a fight. During that fight, Zimmerman somehow managed to get an injury to the back of his head and a (still questionable) broken nose. The fight ended with Martin getting shot. After all the media circus those are still the only relevant facts that are known to the public. From those facts, it’s impossible to know who started the fight, and therefore we can’t say for sure whether or not Zimmerman is justified in killing Martin under Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law, since it’s still possible that Zimmerman may have instigated the whole thing.

What Zimmerman and Martin may have possibly done beforehand is not directly applicable, but if this goes to court (which it should), then a jury will have to determine what their previous histories say about their character. Neither one of them are spotless: Zimmerman has a history of explosive outbursts and there’s a possibility that Martin may have been courting joining a local gang.

Considering the actual publicly available facts, nobody can be able to honestly say what actually happened without revealing their own biases in this case. I find it very revealing to listen to what people think really happened.

brianmacker, Are you sure your name isn’t John Derbyshire? I was going to write a long post arguing with you, like pointing out how stupid it is to just 100% believe everything in Zimmerman’s story (despite Zimmerman’s violent past), or your bizarre sarcastic defense of Rivera’s excuse for discrimination based on clothing, or you just plain making stuff up. But on second thought I’m not going to get in a huge argument with you, obviously you have some racist leanings. I’m not sure why you don’t  like minorities (especially African-Americans), but I’m sorry for you.

Sorry Brainmacker don’t watch tv news. I have seen a few clips of Fox, and it seems to be just a lot of the ranty crazy bullshit that passes for right wing discourse these days. Fox I think is a big part of the reason republicanism is disappearing up its own asshole.

It doesn’t surprise me that a Fox fan would be championing the right to murder black children.

You don’t seem competent to interpret anything if you got out of my comment that I was a Fox fan.   Read it again, the sentence   “… any better than Fox News” doesn’t mean what you think it does.

Okay you’re not a Fox fan it’s just a weird coincidence that you’re regurgitating the Foxism that shooting black teenagers wearing hooded sweatshirts on sight is an act of self defense.

Do you find it difficult to reconcile you’re commitment to the extreme end of racism with atheism? Usually a racist ideology as extreme as yours is buttressed by or largely rationalized through religion.

“… or have been misled as to their authenticity.”
Mislead by ABC, NBC, and CNN if your claim is true about the recording not being a 911 call.  They are calling it a 911 call.  Thanks for trying to clear that up but Zimmerman actually made two calls that night.   The first call was to the non-emergency and a second to 911.     It was a 911 dispatcher that told him he didn’t NEED to follow.   It wasn’t a command.    Nor would he be compelled to listen to the police if it were an officer on the line, and he actually asked him not to follow.  Funny that people on the left are making this claim.

Turns out he didn’t have intentionally stop his following of Martin because he was too out of shape to keep up with the 6’2″ Trayvon Martin.   We know because of the 911 tape.  He specificallly says that “he ran away” and that he doesn’t know where Martin went to.

I wonder how many of those other calls that were characterized as 911 calls were also non-emergency calls. 
“We don’t need you to do that” could be considered an order, and it could easily be argued that it was, then yes he could be charged for disobeying an officer.”
Utter nonsense.   Laughable utter nonsense.   You don’t have to listen to such advice, command or otherwise.  If you were in the World Trade Center on the phone with police and they told you to “stay put” there would be no duty to listen, and no crime they could charge you with for no listening.   Where’d you get this silly idea?  Cops have very limited powers.
“Number two, the only person to have actually seen anything and come forward the day of the incident was a little boy under the age of 14 (I don’t remember the specific age right now). He was going out to walk their family dog when he saw somebody standing over somebody else. ”
He’s the witness who could not identify either party.     There is a second eye witness much closer, and identied Zimmerman as being on the bottom (guy with “red sweater”) and as the one calling for help.   That witness was a man and he dialed 911 himself.
“When he told that to the police, they asked him if it was Zimmerman standing, and the boy said yes. In most cases questions like that can be considered leading the witness and definitely bring the conclusions into question.”
 
Your version sounds like the Chinese whispers version in that it gets everything wrong.   Also why are you trying to undermine your version of what the boy supposedly says if he has Zimmerman standing?   In fact the kid made no such statements about Zimmerman standing during the confrontation.  Also it is silly to claim that asking a simple question is “leading the witness”.  

The kid (he’s black) was on the news and asked the same question by reporters and repeated that he saw a guy in red on the ground. So initial reports were wrong, he also identified Zimmerman as being on the ground based on his clothes.  I just watched a video of the kid.  The kids mother, who wasn’t there, claims it was too dark to see colors but we have two witnesses who claim they saw red.  She makes a bunch of other claims that are also impossible for her to know.  Probably protecting the kid who is too innocent to realize the narrative he is supposed to take.

“All other witnesses so far are questionable because of how long it took them to come forward.”
Forward to whom?  The police or to the news media.   The police let Zimmerman go (in part) because of the other eyewitness who placed Martin on top of Zimmerman beating him with Zimmerman screaming for help.  You know, the one who dialed 911 as Martin was beating Zimmerman.   You think that is too long a wait to be credible, as the crime occurred?
“The only thing we really know for sure is that Zimmerman was following Martin.”
We only know he was following him for the few seconds before he said that he lost him and was going to meet the police at his car.   We are sure of many other things, not just your one mischaracterization (you lied by ommission in leaving out the fact we know he stopped following).   Based on the phone call we are just as sure that he lost Martin, and planned to meet the police at the mailboxes by his truck.we know that Zimmerman’s story is consistent with all other facts in the case.   There is lots of stuff we know.

“… and a (still questionable) broken nose”
The police report has him bleeding from the nose at the scene.  That large bump on the side of his nose in the police photos isn’t in any of the other pictures of him.    Looked like a broken nose to me.   Father has reported that he has a broken nose.  They also claim have medical records.  All a big coincidence, or maybe a raging pimple?
“After all the media circus those are still the only relevant facts that are known to the public.”For someone who is following this closely you sure are misinformed.   There are lots of relevant facts you missed and got wrong.  Grass stains, blood on Zimmermans shirt, witnesses, tapes, etc.
“… but if this goes to court (which it should), then a jury will have to determine what their previous histories say about their character.  Zimmerman has a history of explosive outbursts and there’s a possibility that Martin may have been courting joining a local gang.”
Sorry, you don’t understand how the justice system works.  The prosecutor cannot bring up past history at trial to present to the jury.  This is something you should have learned in high school.  It cannot be part of the basis for bringing him to trial either.  The prosecutors have nothing at this point and it would be an injustice not to mention a waste of taxpayer money to charge him.
“Considering the actual publicly available facts, nobody can be able to honestly say what actually happened without revealing their own biases in this case. I find it very revealing to listen to what people think really happened.”
I like people who pretend to be neutral observers and claim unsubstantiated bias on the part of others.   So your various claims about what witnesses said (which they didn’t) and the fact you think there is only one witness, and that you think it wasn’t a 911 call, don’t show any bias?   All the know evidence adds up to Martin attacking Zimmerman.  There is zero evidence in the other direction other than speculation.  Of course we cannot know with absolute certainty what happened but there is no evidence that contradicts Zimmerman’s account, and plenty that confirms it, and therefore no reason for prosecutors to charge him.

… and dude, I was at a party where based on initial reports I had a conversation with two other people where I was arguing that Zimmerman bore responsibility for following Trayvon, and that Trayvon may have thought he was a mugger, and that I thought I heard Zimmerman say “fucking coons” on the tape.  

 Of course, as now, I also indicated that we can’t know exactly what the conversation was that lead to the altercation.   I actually said, “Maybe Zimmerman said to Trayvon, ‘hey Nigger get out of my Neighborhood’ and that is what triggered the fight.”   Problem is that with more info that becomes less and less probable.  The guy is a social worker and activist who has sided with blacks against the police, and has many black friends who are saying that racism is not a believable motivation. 

 One of the two people I was talking with had just lost his son last year to a motorcycle accident and we were both sympathetic to some kid being killed needlessly by some large adult carrying a gun, and muttering “coons”.  Turns out that was all wrong.   Sorry if my opinion changes with the facts.   What does your deep and unbiased psychologizing say about that?

Because contrary to your opinion Zimmerman’s story doesn’t contradict any other evidence at this point.  Of course, that could change.

“such as the fact that he did not need medical attention despite supposedly being beaten within an inch of his life”

This is factually incorrect.  The police report that he got treatment at the scene.    He sought additional medical attention later.      

You are completely confused about what “standing your ground” means.    It doesn’t allow you to shoot or punch someone just because you think they might be a mugger, or you are scared.   They would actually have to mug you.    It is not credible to believe Zimmerman walked up to Martin and asked him for his money.

This was a closed community and even if it is open there is no problem with following someone you think is acting suspicious and asking whatever you’d like.   I’ve done it, and I’ve had it done to me.     I’ve even been followed by someone with a gun and confronted (to tell me to vacate his property which I had strayed onto from a forest reserve). 

I’ve also confronted a group of men with guns on one occasion, and a single man with a gun on the other.   It doesn’t automatically end up in a shooting.    In all the cases there was an exchange something like “What are you doing here”, “I am doing X”,  “Oh, please leave”, “Sorry my mistake, bye.”.

In the case with the multiple armed men they were all to a man wearing masks.  I confronted them, asked them who they were and why they were there.   Informed them they were mistaken, and they left.

Perfectly legal to carry a gun.  Would NOT have been legal for me to start swinging at them just because they were carrying guns, or at the other guy following me with one.

Zimmerman’s gun was conceiled and I doubt Trayvon would have been so egar to start a fist fight had Zimmerman been brandishing it when questioning him.

Oh, and I once had to confront a guy in a excavator with a machete.    That’s a long story, but the relevant part is he was more than cooperative in walking with me to his truck to show me identification.    Trayvon would have been much more cooperative had he known Zimmerman had a gun.

Here’s the long story in that case:

You see a guy I had contracted for the excavator work had left the excavator next to my house and I heard it start up at night and looked out the window to see it being driven over some of my trees and towards my house.  It was within twenty feet of my bedroom.  I thougth it was being stolen and grabbed the nearest weapon to confront whoever was about to bear down on me.   It happened to be the person my contractor had borrowed the excavator from but I didn’t know that.  The guy had not bothered to knock on my door before borrowing the excavator.   He was very apologetic and offered to pay me for the trees.   He didn’t know I planned to cut them down and plant more desireable trees so I let him sweat on that one.      … and no I didn’t call the police, nor did he.

I forced him out of the cab of the excavator and asked him for identification.   He said it was in his truck 300 feet down by the road.  So I walked him down and when he showed his identification let him load his excavator on his truck and leave.

I think he’ll knock the next time.

See there you go again with the reading comprehension problems.   The sentence containing the word “message” contained the message I was referring too, “I’m a gansta”.    Are you under the misapprehension that 17 year olds are incapable of crime?    I think you need to wise up to the fact that there are people who go out of their way to look and act menacing.   In fact there is an entire subculture that even has music that glorifies violence, cop killing, and likes to beat up innocent bystanders and post videos of their crimes on web sites.   You don’t see opera singers in tuxedos doing drive by shootings of each other.   Not true of rap singers in their baggy pants, and hoodies.

Never said that shooting black teenagers on sight is self defense.  I don’t follow Fox but I doubt very much they did either.    You are getting more and more bizzare and out of touch with reality in your claims.

I have exhibited zero racism, so the racism must be in your head.   I think you are one of those people who emote more than actually listen and think.

Yeah, some of us actually read and comprehend the news, understand the law, and know the difference between self defense, and cold blooded murder.

How do you know that I am “regurgitating the Foxism” if you don’t watch Fox.   I don’t watch it so I  wouldn’t know what you mean by it in the first place.   I am mostly aware of Fox due to all the bitching people do about it. 

You just are not making any sense whatsoever.   At this point you are merely on an emotional rant.

What exact statement did I make that you mistakenly interpret as a entire “racist ideology” (holy cow)?    At this point your comments are getting laughable.    The only racists involved in this so far are the new black panthers (involved with their “bounty” on Zimmerman), or Al Sharpton (hates Koreans) or Hymie Town Jackson.    Even the stories about roving gangs of neo-nazis in Sanford are made up.

Go watch a video of some of those New Black Panthers to get an idea of what a “racist ideology” is like, complete with justifications for killing white babies.

My black friends would find your claims ludicrous.    Funnier still is that I have had a black doctor for fifteen or more years before I moved recently.   Sure sign of a racist, having a black doctor.   Plus the several black girls I’ve dated would be curious as to why I bought them dinners, when to the zoo and such without ever asking them for sexual favors, like you’d expect from a racist dating a black woman.   After all the only reason a racist would date a black woman would be for the sex, right?   It couldn’t be to impress his racist friends after all.

All I’ve done is argue the fact here and since you’ve been shown to be wrong, and wish this to be about race, you now charge me indiscriminately with not merely being a bigot but having an entire racist ideology.   LOL.

Support your claims.  You can start with, “you just plain making stuff up”.  I’ll link you to the information that you are obviously ignorant of.    Obviously you are an ill informed coward who posts anonomously and can’t defend his position.  You aren’t sure “why” your false assumption that I don’t like minorities is precisely because you have zero evidence that I don’t like minorities.    What I don’t like his falsehood, and race baitiing, which you obviously prefer.   Obviously defending a minority (a hispanic with a jewish father) who handed out flyers supporting a black homeless man who was being treated unjustly by the police is a sure sign of someone who hates “minorities”.

What I don’t like are racist lynch mobs like the one that is out for Zimmerman.     How does it feel to be siding with the racist New Black Panters?  You in with their desire to kill all the whites down to the last white baby or maybe starting with it?    You under the mistaken belief that only white people are racist?  Go on you tube and search for “New Black Panter Racist” and you will see the kind of lynch mob you are supporting here, against a guy who’s past includes some quite un-racist behavior.

Rivera is a side show.   There is no evidence Zimmerman even used the hoody as his criteria for thinking Martin was suspicious, which was that it was raining and he was outside looking about.     He only mentioned the hoodie because he was asked for a description.  

Rivera apparently wasn’t aware of that and thought Zimmerman used it as a criteria for being concerned.      Hoodies, like ski masks are useful in hiding ones face when skulking about so Rivera isn’t so far off.   In case you are not aware baggie pants serve the purpose of conceiling both stolen goods and weapons.   Of course they are also a fashion statement for those who wish to appear like street wise tough gangstas.  So Rivera isn’t entirely wrong.  

In fact, Rivera has no evidence but he might just be right.   Zimmerman might just have gotten the wrong impression from the hoodie too.   He certainly was mistaken about why Travon was looking at all the houses in the rain.  The guy was likely lost in the dark.

I suggest you try putting on a white conical hat and white sheet and walk through harlem if you don’t think that people make judgements based on dress.

I’ll continue to believe what I do on this case based on the facts unless you can actually support your claims with other facts.   Just be aware that I already know you jump to false conclusions because I know I don’t have “racist tendencies”.   Your opinions seem to be colored by your own bigotry.

I’m a 39-year-old white woman and I would wear my hoodie if I went out to run an errand on a chilly night. Is that sending a message too? Do you know how many people wear hoodies? It’s a totally normal item of clothing, not suspicious in the slightest. Not unless you already have preconceived suspicions about the person wearing one.

“finding witnesses”

…’correcting’ a witnesses’ statement when it didn’t match Zimmerman’s story…

Fundamentally, you seem to think that a teenager, or at least a black male teenager, should not expect to have the right to walk around his father’s neighborhood without being followed and accosted by random self-appointed cop wannabes. If he is followed and accosted, and that scares him and he takes a swing at the person following him, then everything that happens, up to and including his death, is his fault. I hope you don’t also call yourself pro-freedom.

Of course, I saw in another thread where you were speculating that maybe going out to the store was just Martin’s cover story for scoping out places to rob, because who would go to the store on a drizzly night for candy and a drink? (A damn teenager, that’s who, did a little rain really bother you when you were 17? It didn’t bother me.) So you clearly are committed to making this Martin’s fault, and there’s nothing I could say to persuade you.

When you were searching for my other comments to mischaracterise them here did you find this comment:  http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/24/dude-wheres-my-hate-crime/#comment-333256

”
There are reports of a witness who saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating him as he yelled for help. The tapes of Trayvon sound like angry kid shouting, not “crying” as the news reports characterize it.
I understand the outrage that goes with thinking the cops are not pursuing the crime, but it’s based on false reporting. At first I thought this was obviously not self defense, but now I want more information. I still think the force used by Zimmerman was disproportionate, and that Zimmerman was negligent in his behavior. How was Trayvon not to know he wasn’t being mugged himself? His actions may have been in self defense. Not sure how the law works down ther but the law may be what is tying up the police from charging him. The law may allow disproportion and pursuit, and it shouldn’t. Of course, Trevon also broke any such rules himself in attacking Zimmerman, if he did. I doubt Zimmerman said “Give me all your money”.
Ironically It may have been Trevon’s girlfriend on the phone who urged him to run that put him in the frame of mind that Zimmerman was some kind of mugger. We specifically require law enforcement to wear uniforms for this reason. had Zimmerman been wearing a uniform this incident probably would not have happened.
” -Brian Macker

Sort of fucks up your narrative about me.  Doesn’t it.   Look at the date.  About ten days ago.   Changed my mind since, haven’t I.  

Oh and the following comment was mine too.  In which I wrote:”
It wasn’t like Trayvon was caught breaking into a house or pulling his penis out of a rape victim. He was walking to his house from 7/11. He was being followed then chased by a guy with a gun at night. He was just as right to be suspicious of Zimmerman as vice versa, if not more so. If I’m out at night and some guy starts following me around with a gun I’m going to think he’s got bad intentions too. Zimmerman acts like an idiot on his 9/11 phone call (even mumbling “F’n coons” under his breath), so I wouldn’t be surprised if he confronted Trayvon it a way that came across as a mugging.
If you are going to confront randoms strangers at night with a gun in some semi-official capacity I think it best you identify yourself in some way. A uniform is one such way.
”

Yep, That’s me, until I figured out that much of this nonsense was fabricated and I was being played for a chump, like you.

That was making fun of the other nonsense speculation about Zimmerman.    People want to spin stories about Zimmerman,  well Travon has been caught with burglar tools and stolen jewelery.   We can speculate on all sorts of things, can’t we?   

You forgot to mention the fact that on “other threads” I originally thought it was Zimmermans fault, until I found out just how much fabrication there was in these stories.

“…’correcting’ a witnesses’ statement when it didn’t match Zimmerman’s story…”

Yeah, who’s story did they “correct”, since you are bring this new item in.   You mean the woman who had never met either Zimmerman nor Trayvon who claimed to recognize Trayvons voice as calling for help?    Do you wonder why he might correct her on that considering she was in her house, had never heard their voices, and another witness who saw Zimmerman actually screaming for help indicated otherwise. Even Trayvon’s father supposedly admitted that was not his son’s voice, and we are supposed to believe a witness who never heard either man talk let alone scream.

“Fundamentally, you seem to think that a teenager, or at least a black male teenager, should not expect to have the right to walk around his father’s neighborhood without being followed and accosted by random self-appointed cop wannabes. If he is followed and accosted, and that scares him and he takes a swing at the person following him, then everything that happens, up to and including his death, is his fault. I hope you don’t also call yourself pro-freedom.”

Fundmentally you like to speculate all sorts of nonsense.

It was his father’s girlfriends house, and that is immaterial.  Who cares if his father lived there or whether he was in some random neighborhood.

That’s a loaded word, accosted.   If you want to use the girlfriends testamony and the word accosted to mean “asked a question” then it was Trayvon who accosted Zimmerman first with “Why you following me?”     

There is no fundamental right not to be asked questions on the street.   Nor is there some fundamental right not to be followed.   Zimmerman was not some ” random self-appointed cop wannabes”.   He was his neighborhood watch representative.    This was a private community and not open to random people walking through.   So he is perfectly within his rights to ask strangers what they are doing there.     He could have easily been brushed aside with a “I’m staying with my dad’s girlfriend and I’m lost”.   Apparently that didn’t happen.

There were a string of burglaries in the area, and Zimmerman was perfectly reasonable in questioning some strange kid out at night in the rain looking like he was scoping out houses.  

I don’t understand why you care whether he was or wasn’t scoping houses in the first place.    That’s not a reason you can gun someone down either.   I certainly wouldn’t use it as an excuse for killing someone.   As I’ve pointed out with my stories I’ve had far scarier confrontations and there was nothing done that justified shooting anyone, or punching someone.

You are being clueless about this whole thing.    My original point stands.   No one was gunned down for wearing a hoodie.   Trayvon got shot because he was on top of a man with a gun that he had just got done punching to the ground (unless you think Zimmerman layed on his back to get a better shot).

The fact that I don’t currently entertain, or express every thing I ever considered does not mean I didn’t do so in the past.   This thing has been going on for quite a while.   My position has changed on the entire thing.   Also, I’m only defending my one point, which is my original statement.

Unless you have evidence that Zimmerman physically attacked Trayvon then the evidence we do have indicates he did fire in self defense.  Period.

Eh, Zimmerman was 240 pounds, nearly a hundred pound weight advantage.

Anyway, it’s a shame that Zimmerman will most likely never face justice. Had the circumstances been slightly different, the case would have gone to trial swiftly. Ah well.

Shooting a black kid in a hoodie is always self defense, you made that pretty clear earlier, looking like a ” gangsta” ie a black teenager, is threatening behaviour, which in your argument is the main reason Zimmerman chased him down.

Maybe you’re right, in my crazy world justifying the killing of black people because you find them scary would clearly constitute racism, but then I didn’t realize you once had a black doctor. Next time someone makes grotesque generalizations about people based on their race I’ll ask if theyve ever had a black doctor.

without any prompting “fucking coons” is what i heard from the get-go. I live in the south… SC in fact, and yes… that is what i heard it to be since it is almost as popular as “fucking niggers” around here… just won’t get you punched in the mouth as fast.

In your crazy world I actually did that when I didn’t.   You aren’t allowed to just up and kill people you find menacing in my world,  nor are you allowed to punch them in the face.    In fact I never even mentioned “black people” you moron.

That was many years ago when he was obese.   He’s only 5’9″ and at the time of his arrest was of comparable weight to Martin.   Had he the additional 100 pounds that would have been even more of a reason to expect him to lose a fight.

You are just full of false assumptions.    A police investigation at the crime scene is part of the justice system.    Police can’t just go around charging people with crimes when they didn’t actually commit a crime.   They have standards they have to meet before they can charge someone.

“Did you shoot and kill somebody over that injury? No?”

It was in a JiuJitsu sparing match so no.

“Then who gives a damn, Internet Tough Guy? It’s irrelevant.”

Not irrelavant.  You are the the one who assumes every injury requires a trip to the hospital.  It’s relevant in that your belief is false.   The purpose isn’t to show how tough I am, but how very wrong and ignorant you are.

Also I didn’t get a drop of blood on my uniform (white gi).    Imagine that.  Why?  Because I bent over and let the blood drop on the mat.  A witness identified Zimmerman in such a position.

What’s this “we” shit pale face?   Dan may just be your sock puppet.   I never made a hate filled bigoted rant.   I never mentioned “black people”.  You are just a typical troll liar. 

Yeah, that’s what I thought too, at first.  I have posted actual comments I made several weeks ago where I was supporting the notion that Zimmerman was guilty here.  Unfortunately, the audio has been cleaned up of static and now it sounds like “It’s fucking col[d]”   The “It’s” is pretty distinct.    Meanwhile the indictment (actually it is an police affidavit) that is charging Zimmerman says it’s “fucking punks” which is consistent with a hatred for burgalars, which is what he said he was concerned with.

Possibly, but only because the Atheist side would be heavily populated with Jews. Without that you’d just have lame goys