A Christian College’s Dating Rules

Holy crap Batman!
Sitting at meals with a member of the opposite sex is dating, wow I was going on thousands of dates and I didn’t even know.

Went through their application process. On about the 8th page I was asked if I had accepted Jesus, and the next page asked about my parent’s Christian views. Sigh.

I assume in the “clothing” rules women must cover their hair with hijabs and be sure to wear bulky clothes that cover the body shape?

All fanatics are the same – regardless of religion!

Good to know the old south is still alive and well.

Oh wait, not it is. This is a travesty of racial and gender bias.

I thought it wasn’t gay if it’s a threeway?

On first read, I thought it said “no sexual contact…” and I was thinking, “well, what’s the big deal? That’s pretty much to be expected at a Christian college.”

Then I reread it. Yeesh.

> I would be in serious trouble if I hugged a female friend,

Or shook her hand…

> gave a woman a ride home even if she desperately needed one

No, it’s okay for you to do that. It says she’s not allowed to be in the car with you,  it doesn’t say you’re not allowed to be in the car with her. But that’s okay, you have to treat her with respect and kindness at all times, but she doesn’t have to return the courtesy.

That’s in 1.6 Dress Code

women’s clothing may be addressed and the dress code
amended during the academic year as the need arises.

Ladies’ Dress Code:

• Church dress is considered a nice dress or
coordinate top and skirt appropriate for
church services (no denim), dress shoes,
and hosiery. Backless shoes may not be
worn to class or church services.

Church dress is required for all church services and
special meetings.

• Class dress is considered an appropriate
dress or coordinate top and skirt (no
denim), shoes (no sneakers), and hosiery.

Class dress is required for registration and on all class
days through lunch.

• Casual dress is considered an appropriate
skirt and top, including denim skirts and
dresses (not faded) and casual shoes (no
flip-flops). Hosiery is not required.

Casual dress may not be worn in the college buildings
until after normal class hours on days when classes are
in session.

• Recreational dress includes approved fullfitting,
knee-length culottes, appropriate
sport shirts or t-shirts, and sneakers or
sandals (no flip-flops).

Recreational dress is not appropriate for the college
campus. Students must wear class dress (during class
hours) or casual dress (after class hours) when in the
college buildings.

Recreational dress is allowed for some college
activities, and when students are playing ball at the
ball fields, volleyball courts, or gymnasium.

Ladies’ General Appearance

All ladies’ apparel must be modest in appearance.

Students are never to have a sloppy appearance, even
in casual or recreational dress.

Hairstyles should be neat, orderly, and feminine.
Cutting-edge fads should be avoided along with cuts
so short that they have a masculine look.

Jewelry, make-up, nail polish, and hairstyles may not
be excessive, gaudy, faddish, or unnatural in color or
appearance.

Cloth, shell, or choker necklaces are not to be worn.
Ankle bracelets, toe rings, and thumb rings are not
permitted.

Earrings may be worn only in the lobe of the ear
(maximum of two matched sets). All other body
piercing is prohibited.

Students are not allowed to get tattoos or body piercings.

Dresses, Skirts, and Recreational Wear

Hemlines and slits or other openings may never
come higher than the bottom of the knee (when
standing or sitting).

Altered slits must be sewn, not pinned.

Skirts and dresses must have a hem (no frayed hemlines).

Denim skirts may be worn when casual dress is
permitted (not to classes or church services). Faded
denim is not allowed.

Skirts and recreational wear may not be worn below
the waistline. Hip-hugger skirts are not allowed.

Full-fitting wear for recreational use will be approved
by the Dean of Women on an individual basis.

Formal dresses must be individually approved by the
Administration. Spaghetti-strap dresses may not be worn.

Dress clothing is to be worn for all church services
and special meetings. A skirt or dress having a zipper
in the front is considered too casual to be worn to a
church service.

Ladies should always wear conventional hosiery
and a slip beneath their clothing, except when in
recreational or casual dress.

Tops

Necklines should be no lower than three fingers width
below the hollow of the neck.

Sleeves are required (no capped sleeves). Sleeveless
dresses and tops may be worn with a blouse, jacket, or
sweater.

Tops must be long enough that the midriff is never
exposed.

Ease of Fit

Clothing must be loose-fitting, having a minimum of
three inches of ease at the bust and hips.

One way to measure the ease of fit is to stand up
straight and pinch the loose fabric on both sides of the
hips or at the bust line. Without strething the fabric,
there should be at least ¾ inch of fold in the fabric on
both sides.

Miscellaneous

Ladies are not permitted to have jeans, slacks,
gauchos, sweat pants, spandex, or shorts. Students are
not to have these items of clothing with them while at
Crown College, nor wear them while traveling to and
from the college.

In the dormitories, ladies must be fully dressed or
wearing a robe when outside their rooms.

One-piece bathing suits are to be worn at any
scheduled swimming occasion.

Full-fitting culottes may be worn for recreational or
work purposes but should not be worn off campus
except when allowed for an approved college activity
or when approved for work.

Ladies should wear casual dress, not recreational
dress, when attending ball games as a spectator.

Garments having the appearance of lingerie may not
be worn as outer wear.

No clothing having the appearance of underwear may
be visible.

Sheer clothing is only permitted when the garment
underneath conforms to the dress code.

Hiking and combat boots or shoes that give this
appearance are not permitted.

Flip-flops may not be worn outside the dormitory.

Sweatshirts may not be worn to classes or church
services. Nice-looking sweatshirts are considered
casual dress, and athletic sweatshirts are considered
recreational dress.

So yeah. Basically nothing that shows off the shape of the female body or looks masculine. They very strictly define the gender role every woman must fit into.

this whole handbook is creepy. They define the gender roles so deeply and strictly it might as well be a cult headquarters.

/agree

Hemant, thanks for the post. 

It should be noted that this college is accredited. They’re essentially illegal. And therefore, their rules could be construed as a violation of basic rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_College_(Tennessee)#Accreditation

Damn, I would have been kicked out of that college within a semester, and I was one of the “good girls” at my school. I think I’ve violated every single one of those rules – including interracial dating, if you define dating as they do. My closest friends in college were men, I was frequently off campus and alone with them (on walks and study times at 24 hour restaurants), my friend David’s dorm room was one of my favorite places to sit and read as it was quieter than my own (and we frequently sat there with the door shut! oh noes!), I traveled with these guy friends on camping trips and holidays, and I hugged them frequently. I would have been the local harlot, apparently, which is kind of ironic considering I only had one actual date in college and zero romantic relationships. Huh.

if they’re anything like Bob Jones, they enforce it via a culture of rewarding tattle tales

Re: homosexuality… I’m guessing they realize that no homosexual would attend this university, unless he or she were stuffed thoroughly in the closet.

Eat their food? Make OUR food, HA!

And I thought BYU was bad. My goodness.

You can give your dumb wimin as many rides home as you want. Just make sure you stuff them in the trunk.

leeway with a threeway?   hmm

Ambigram. Check it out!

What about riding on the luggage rack? When I was a kid, my parents always told me that that was an acceptable place for me to ride if I wanted to misbehave. 😉

Unfortunately for this case, space-based nuclear weapons are illegal. The SALT treaty even bans fractional orbital bombardment systems

Or not yet out to even themselves. There are plenty of people who don’t figure out that they are gay until their early 20s

At least culottes are OK! If you can find any place to purchase culottes outside of 1992.

Can you say CULT?

or heels. No open back shoes lest you blow your wad looking at those caloused heels. Mmmmmmm, caloused heals.

Actually, you don’t have to be accredited to be legal. It’s more that their academics are in question. Their standing is not good enough to spend the money.

From their mentality, that’s more than a century in the future

Fuck that shit. Girls can’t even OWN jeans. That’s my entire wardrobe out.

Also I dread to think how many of their dress code rules I’m violating right now with my low cut strappy tank top, jeans and Doc Martens with purple ribbon laces.  Oh, and a thumb ring.

You’re right those are hideous. When they were popular and not homemade they looked more like a skirt that happened to be split. Or sometimes like shorts from the back and a skirt from the front. I never found them very comfortable to wear either way.

Wait… nowhere in all of that dress code do I see any requirement that women wear underwear.  With all that obsession with the details of women’s clothing, how did they miss that?

Me too!  So when they catch people behaving against these rules (or as sane people would refer to as “normal college aged student behavior”) I have to wonder if there is some scarlet letter discipline doled out.

As long as you get the administrative approval…. 

Dormitory ladies may not work at a mall or fast-food
restaurant.

Because a crappy minimum wage job at McDonald’s is nothing more than a den of vice.

doesn’t say underpants or a bra, though

That means I’ve been on on group dates! OMG, I wonder if those led to orgies??

I find it a bit ironic that the college does not permit demim clothing on girls inasmuch as the college is now located in an old Levi Strauss building.-)

“No physical contact between members of the opposite sex”? Egad, they can’t even get their grammar to be unambiguously correct. As written, that means “no two people who are not of the gender of the writer can touch”. Presumably the author was male, so women aren’t allowed to touch each other here. The proper phrasing would be “no physical contact between members who are of different genders” (or “sexes” if you prefer).

But seriously, if I drop a pencil and the woman in the chair next to me picks it up to hand it back to me, and brushes my hand by accident, does that mean we’re both to be expelled, or is this just yet another case of “we’ll forbid everything and then use the inevitable violations to kick out the people we don’t like”?

In all likelihood.

Third most common fetish, after boobs and butt.

Hah!  I live a mile away from this place!  Oh to be a liberal atheist in Tennessee!

To be fair, they do make gender distinctions for everyone. For example, they say “Men should treat their dates with respect and kindness at all times, observing all rules of courtesy” but they make no requirement for women to do the same.

One of my friends grew up in a fundamentalist cult.  The cult had a community center and allowed dating only in the sense that a couple could meet in a well-lit room of the center and chat under the supervision of chaperones.  Nice. 

Sadly, this does not shock me AT ALL. I’m a member of several survivalist/prepper forums and I’ve giggled through more than a few threads that discussed TEOTWAWKI and how there won’t be any electricity or gasoline and everyone will go back to Amish living. The women bemoan the lack of patterns for such cutting edge fashion as ankle length jumpers and turtleneck long sleeve tops to go with them. I suggested a sarong on one thread, as an easy no fuss clothing option and the way they went into orbit, you’d have thought I suggested they all just coat themselves in butter and run naked through the fields. Hilarious.

Crikey.  Where’s the burkhas? 

Decades ago, I bartended and waited tables in a city with several colleges, both the real, academic kind and the Bible kind, as well as many, many conventioneers and tourists.  I once worked VERY briefly at a place near the Bible college. 
Bible students?  Worst. Tippers. Ever. Anywhere.  Second worst tippers: Parents of Bible students and conventioneers attending Bible school teaching seminars (grade school and high school Bible teachers) and people attending preacher’s conventions and, lastly, speakers at religious motivational seminars.  The thought of that last group gives me nightmares to this day.  Effin’ creepy dudes, those.I’m sure they would defend their stinginess with the Biblical admonition against giving alms in public.  

Best tippers:  Gay tourists in New Orleans for Mardi Gras and Jazz Fest, scientists, people on sci-fi conventions, and people on non-profit organization conventions.

Am I the only one who noticed no rules for pajamas?  Robes are to be worn in the dorm hallways, but what about the PJs?  Is this a loophole for au naturel?

I am imagining these students having each and every personal item inspected before moving into the dorm.  SCARY.  But why anyone would even want to attend such a school is light years beyond my comprehension.  

Best tippers…Harley conventions and hot rodders. An honorable mention goes to Jehovah’s Witnesses. At least in my area they are told to distinguish themselves from other Christian groups and actually tip in the 20% range. 

But if they mix different types of cloth, THEY’LL ALL BURN IN HHHEEELLL!!!

Umm. Yeah, sorry about that. Had to get that out.

Don’t be so sure it was a man who wrote that. After all, some of the staunchest defenders of the burka are women themselves, for a variety of bizarre reasons.

I think it is hard to underestimate the effectiveness of informers.

I live very close to it too, graduated from Powell High School in 1990. I’m a liberal agnostic, so I feel your pain, man! We started going to a Unitarian church after we had kids just so we can be around other atheist/agnostic & liberal people in this area & have our kids grow up in a liberal community that’s okay with nonreligious people.

This institution is just a freakish cult. Their position on interracial dating frankly leaves me speechless. Since when do legal adults need parental permission? And, demerits? I would encourage my child or friends to avoid this place. One can be an outstanding Christian without being brainwashed by this outfit of nut jobs.

I’m not a lawyer, but as mentioned the legal loophole here is “privately funded Christian school or college”. I went to a very similar school in Knoxville also, JBC, and they are free to do virtually anything they want, all in the name of Jesus, of course.

I’m not sure about other bible college students… But the reason why I tip at such a low percent is because we believe in tithing at least 10% of our earnings… I’m not going to give a waiter or waitress more money than I give to God’s work.

GOD only ask’s for 10% of what he gave you. Now, what you feel is good in your heart is much different, If I get good service then I’ll tip 30%-75% because it feels good to share in such a manner. Be wise, those people handle your food and don’t easily forget.