We Are Allies

Really Chris? Because there is one, ONE Christian church in my area that is LGBT tolerant, although I’d hesitate to say they’re supportive. The Unitarian churches are the only ones that ever overtly support this cause. I’d say an LGBT supportive Christian church is a rarity, and I’m glad you’ve encountered some, and I even acknowledge that there are groups of them. But in the areas that need them most, they are sorely lacking in number and visibility.

Thanks for posting this Hemant!

I think that is a good Idea, not everyone is so lucky to have an accepting family like I do and friends that still care.

What a fantastic project- both of them. Thanks for making me aware. You are a fantastic source of knowledge for ways we can help to change things.

There may well be quite a few churches that are supportive of LBGT issues and people, but the origins of the hatred and prejudice come from the well-spring of religious entities. A small percentage may be trying to repair the damage, but the damage came directly from the religions themselves.

Dunno much about Christian groups, but our Buddhist organization has a GLBT group that meets once a month (AFAIR). I’ve worked with or known many people who are GLB or T, including relatives and in-laws. STILL can’t figure out what the big deal is.

KH I loved that story. My grandson likes to imitate his mother and have her paint his nails and put on her eyeshadow once in a while but, likewise, he already knows he can’t wear it outside or even to daddy’s (because daddy is somewhat a homophobe and would freak out; I don’t even think he tells daddy he likes makeup). I too think it’s stupid that if he wore a little finger nail polish to the playground, school or his father’s there’d be hell to pay but that’s the reality.

He’s seven. He’s vain; he’s handsome as all get out and knows it. He likes imitating his mother and he likes being a pretty boy that everyone flocks to. He honestly likes the finger nail polish and eye shadow because he thinks he’s an even prettier boy with it. He’s got three girlfriends but at his age that may or may not mean anything. Is he gay or straight or bi?

Frankly, I think it’s too early to know beyond that he’s girl crazy and always has been and also already has three girlfriends, one he was kissing on the school bus, so I’m guessing probably straight but given he’s only seven and not sexually mature, I don’t really know. If he grows up to love other men, fine; if he grows up to love women; fine; if he likes both genders, also fine. He will be what he will be and only time’s really going to call that one. All I hope is that he finds a good person to share his life with if he’d rather have a life partner than be single; same as I hope for his mother.

I hope he doesn’t make any babies too young and he doesn’t get used though I recognize that old adage everybody plays the fool sometime which seems we all fall for someone’s line at some point when we’re young and naive and some even when they’re not so young and shouldn’t be so naive. I also hope that if he is either gay or bi, his father doesn’t give him too hard a damned time about it but if he does, my grandson will know he’s got a staunch supportive allies in his mother and grandmother. Other grandparents I suspect would freak out but I hope I’m wrong about that. We’ll see if that turns out to be the case.

The only thing I wish about these campaigns is that there was another one to reach out to suicidal teens for reasons other than sexuality. I wish it wasn’t so focused on just this one thing. Teens are bullied for a myriad of things and hateful as this one is, teens bullied for other reasons, should also have a voice saying hang in there; it does get better. I understand it is because it’s the wake of the rash of suicides by gay teens but I wish there were a corelating one just aimed at teens in general.

And I also wish there was something to change the social makeup of high school to make it suck less. Let’s take the bullies to task whether they pick on the gay kid or the one who’s too skinny or fat or can’t afford nice close. Let’s give detention to both the kids calling a gay teen fag or the bucktoothed kid chipmunk. True, teens need to learn to cope with that kind of thing but, hell, high school is supposed to be preparing them for the working world. Let’s not tolerate any behavior in high school that would not be tolerated in the work place.

[…] to openly state their support and love for the GLBT community

But I don’t “love the GLBT community”. I also don’t wish to support it, the same way I don’t wish to support straights against… dunno what. Flu.

There are some other things I love though, with the main one: freedom. Human rights and freedoms are worth our support, the more that they seem to be threatened much more since 911.

Thus, if the LGBT community is in peril because their human rights are being or are about to be violated – they have my full support. I know that the only way to protect my own freedom is to first protect freedom of others. If I let them lose their rights, I’ll also lose mine, sooner or later.

This however has nothing to do with love. For me, personally, the idea of homosexual sex is plain repulsive, same as the often provocative aesthetics displayed during LGBT events, such as love parades – so obviously there’s nothing for me to love about it. I chose to stay clear.

Thus, in my opinion, the quoted sentence of the post I comment, is wrong. It could say instead:

[…] to openly state their support and love for the GLBT community’s rights and freedoms

How similar, and how different. 🙂

I think there is a better way to participate. Quite frankly the “We Are Allies” site is a good idea, but it lacks credibility. It’s just a tumblr blog that somebody (who knows who) set up that prints emails. This could be run by some well intentioned “guy sitting in his parents basement” (no offense to basement-dwellers).

My point is there are already organizations with similar goals who have been around a while and have greater support and effectiveness. Here’s the Make it Better Project run by the Gay-Straight Alliance. Now I don’t know much about the GSA, but I get the feeling supporting them would be more visible.

Andrzej wrote:

For me, personally, the idea of homosexual sex is plain repulsive

WHY do people make statements like the above, as though it’s relevant to anything?

Personally, the idea of sex between pasty white heterosexuals is plain repulsive…..

so the f*** WHAT?

For me, personally, the idea of homosexual sex is plain repulsive

Personally, the idea of sex between pasty white heterosexuals is plain repulsive

Personally, I really like sex and I’m not at all bothered by what other people do sexually. I don’t want people to dictate to me what I do sexually so I am not justified in dictating to others what they do sexually. My only proviso is consent but I’m sure that could go without saying.

Of course the solution if you don’t like gay sex is to simply not have gay sex.

Otherwise, this again shows how people – and especially gay ones – are just reduced to sex. Sex is a consequence of loving someone and having a relationship. It’s not the biggest or most important part of it. Of course people have sex without love, but I’d say they are probably a minority.