Pray4Trig

I think this MUST be a poe.

I'm new to the atheism community. What's a "Poe"? as in:

The people who created this site (and I hope it’s a Poe but I don’t think it is) will just make excuses when nothing changes.

Check out the forum on the Pray4Trig site. Looks like they have hundreds of posts, but they are all spam for pharmaceuticals. The admin hasn't bothered to clean them up. You can tell these people don't have their act together.

Also, when Trig is NOT healed, they'll just claim that not enough people prayed, or they weren't True Christians. Nothing can disconfirm that which was accepted without evidence or reason in the first place.

I think that the best part of that site is their reply to "atheists and others who hate God" (!! — will they also accuse us of hating Bigfoot and the Tooth Fairy?), when these cite the fact that God has never restored the limb of an amputee to refute belief in the efficacy of prayer: "Honestly, when’s the last time you heard of a congregation praying, with faith, that a member’s lost limb would be restored to him?" ZING!

Has to be a parody. Pure Poe-try.

A lurker. A Poe, is basically someone who is satirising the fundamentalist theist's position.
See: Poe's Law.

http://www.includipedia.com/wiki/Poe's_Law

How about a session to cure Sarah Palin for extreme stupidity.

Well, I know I will be waiting with abated breath….

Now how do we make money off this..
christians, have to donate money to confirm their faith in gods power to heal. We match any bet they make heheh…. If god heals they get all the money to put toward a charity. If he doesn't we get to keep the money. Yeah it would work, Idea needs a little tweaking, but…..

Challenge them to put their money where there faith is.
SSA could use it as a fund raiser within the colleges. You'd make huge in so many ways.

Haha. Indeed!

This is pretty damn offensive, Poe or not. Sadly, whoever made this appears to be as ignorant about disability as the majority of Americans (it’s better in some countries…).

http://www.disabilitypride.org/credo.htm

This is horrible in more ways then one. Although Down’s syndrome can be challenging in many ways, if they get the personal and societal support they need (which i’m sure Trig will due to his wealth) they can live full, happy lives. Although I hate his mothers politics and think she uses him as a pro-life credential, she has given the impression that she is happy with her son the way he is. So do they have much reason to believe he’ll want healing?

Karen: cause everyone over 40 who accidentally gets pregnant was just stupid, right? As if being careful is a 100% guarentee..
Man, i never thought i post something defending that evil republican…

Yes, it is a Poe. Not quite sure if Sally is from Why Won’t God Heal Amputees or from LBC, but either way it is fake. The sad part is how they used a person with Ds for a prop in their attack on Christianity. The site will likely not hurt any Christian beliefs but it does further negative stereotypes about people with Ds.

Listen ye of little faith, you don’t even have to get God to change every cell in Trig’s body, but only retroactively effect an earlier conception date, by like 15 years. Squeeze him in between bristol and willow, and he’ll probably turn out fine. God doesn’t make mistakes, but he can’t be bothered with each and every birth, he lets a few get botched. But he does perform miracles, which means he’s open to suggestion and reminders from those feeble little creations of his. Now, if Trig turns 17 on his birthday, spontaneously sprouting five in a half feet tall, and no longer with Down’s Syndrome, we’ll know why, and all of you will eat your hats. Start buying the condiments, cause you’ll need ’em, ON YOUR HAT… CAUSE THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE GUNNA EAT!!!

Maybe I’m insensitive, but I don’t see the value in taking pride in disabilities. Be proud of the people with the disabilities, but look for a way to prevent it in the future, too. The same goes for this push for acceptance of being overweight and obese. I mean, I accept the people, but I don’t think we should be settling for less than we could be.

That was exactly my opinion when I didn’t know anybody with any kind of disabilities. It makes sense rationally, but people and life aren’t rational.

Many people with disabilities don’t see themselves as “less than [they] could be.” In fact, they’d see it as just as insulting as saying that a non-white person is less than they could be if they were white. It’s not necessarily the disabled/non-white person that needs to change — it’s the societal perceptions of them and their resulting obstacles. In the end, though, I think the people with the disabilities are the final authority on how they should be treated. They’re the ones experiencing their lives, after all. And it’s a ridiculously complicated issue that isn’t exactly on topic, so I’ll stop here.

I didn’t say that the people see themselves as less than they could be. I said that we’re settling for less than we could be.

I do happen to know plenty of people with disabilities. While I was in college I volunteered for a school for people with various learning, emotional, and physical disabilities, and I grew up with an aunt with severe learning disabilities.

The issue isn’t that these people should be unsatisfied with their lives. It’s that we can change things so that others won’t have to face the challenges they do. These aren’t just challenges that come from society; changing our mindset isn’t enough.

I’m not talking about eugenics. I’d never suggest that we should kill fetuses with birth defects. I do think, however, that we can try to find ways to prevent these things from developing in otherwise healthy fetuses in the first place.