The Community Holiday Party

I hate inaccuracies* around my old religion. I feel an urge to correct them, but don’t want to get into it, you know? It’s basically defending beliefs I haven’t followed in over a decade. But anytime I can say well, at least they weren’t such-and-such, I can’t stop myself. As in, ‘hey at least I wasn’t a Creationist.’ But why should I still care about what the mainstream people think of it anyway?

Anyway, this looks funny! Maybe I’ll check it out during break.

*Mormons don’t drink. Jehovah’s Witnesses can.

The Google Machine says Jehovah’s Witnesses can drink; they just can’t get drunk.
Makes perfect sense.

I agree with Teddy. The show is top quality. I’ve enjoyed every episode. This was yet another good one — even though they irked me a teeny-tiny bit with the “I’m an atheist” and “I’m an agnostic” divide, when we all know that agnostics aren’t half-way between atheism and theism. ;D But it’s a comedy, a fine comedy, and they glossed over all the belief systems so whatever. 🙂

I was lukewarm on the first few episodes, but the last couple were really good. Last night’s was hilarious. I’m not sure if it’s getting better or just growing on me.

I liked that ‘agnostic’ got ragged on but atheist didn’t cause any more concern than the various religions.

See, that’s a metaphor that respectful and tolerant towards others, so I can realy get behind it. I personally belief the non-religious, non-theist movement needs more thinkers like that, and less of the militant anti-religious pushers who mock people for their beliefs.

You said, “Is the whole series be like this?”. You’re reading too many lol catz I think.

Our 6-1/2-year-old son was still up while we had this on. When Shirley started singing about Jesus, he exclaimed, “That’s not a Christmas song.” My partner and I experienced the same reaction simultaneously: a bit of a triumphant smirk and the realization that we need to give him a little more of the Christmas story.

That was great 😉

What’s the problem some people have with the agnostic? I’ve heard the “lazy man’s atheist” before so it’s not like they are making up the attitude some people have. And an atheist and an agnostic are different, so why is that an issue?

I loved this episode. The series started off slow, but it’s gotten better. I am hoping that, through humor, more people can start to see that saying Happy Holidays isn’t the death to Christmas.

And maybe if people of all beliefs joined together, we could actually defeat the chodes who walk around in their gym clothes 24/7.

You should also check out 30 Rock when it shows up on Hulu. The writers make up a fake religion to keep from doing a secret santa run by Kenneth. At one point Tracey Morgan’s character explains how all religions are just crazy beliefs, customs, and ceremonies used to control people and convincing Kenneth that religion is fake.

Sure Kenneth gets his faith back in the end but that particular scene was good.

I thought the episode was fantastic. It was very well-done and hilarious. I’ll agree with everyone else here that “Community” started off slow and has really grown on me. The 7-9 on NBC (central time) is the best two-hour slot on TV (Community, Parks and Rec, The Office, and 30 Rock). Other than sports, I don’t watch much TV, but Thursday nights always get DVR’d.

Have loved this show since the begining. Loved the Paul Rudd comment as yes, that is exactly how I feel about religion, I understand people wanting it and have nothing against it like Paul Rudd, but don’t want to take part in it and don’t want it to be part of laws and other people’s lives who don’t live by it, (like Paul Rudd!)..

Also loved the part where after Shirly puts the Menorah in the tree, she gives Annie the baby Jesus and leaves, and Annie puts the baby Jesus in the tree. I laughed for like 2 minutes from that.

What’s the problem some people have with the agnostic? I’ve heard the “lazy man’s atheist” before so it’s not like they are making up the attitude some people have. And an atheist and an agnostic are different, so why is that an issue?

Oh no, I didn’t mean the show was being unfair or anything like that. As I said up above, I felt the show glosses over/made light of all the beliefs so it only made sense that they would go with the more common understanding of what an agnostic is — which is a “softer” atheism.

That is, Person A believes in God, Person B doesn’t, and Person C just isn’t sure what they believe, doesn’t want to deal with the question, and also doesn’t want to hurt the feelings of person A or B so they call themselves agnostic.

In the show, after Jeff refers to himself as an agnostic, Pierce jumps on the stereotype by calling him lazy, suggesting he picked agnosticism because he can’t make a decision.

But agnosticism doesn’t refer to belief in theism, it refers to knowledge. In that sense, you could be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist because, truly, none of us can claim to know, we can only have our beliefs (theist/atheist).

Watching the show, I kind of get the sense that Jeff is very loosely a theist. He strikes me as someone who’d offer up a token prayer to some/any higher beings in the hopes that it’d help him to pass a final, for example. But I don’t think he’d be surprised if it did/did not come to pass. Nor would it stop him from doing it all up again the next time. 🙂

After the first episode I thought it was something that had all the elements to be funny but that it didn’t gel into something that actually was funny, but this clip is hilarious. I think I’ll have to try this show out again.