Don’t Do Business with Them November 19, 2008

Don’t Do Business with Them

By Guest Contributor
November 19, 2008

If you want to know where not to shop this holiday season, don’t waste time poring over the list of stores which are naughty or nice.

Instead, check out the list of people, companies, and organizations that gave over $5,000 in support of Proposition 8 in California, ending same-sex marriage in the state.

They don’t deserve your patronage.

(via The Daily Dish)

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  • Catherine

    It amazes me that the thought of gay people getting married is so scary that these folks are willing to spend insane amounts of money to stop it from happening.

  • Shane

    I really wonder when “Family” became such an evil and ominous word. I also hate the Knights of Columbus.

    My dad remains at least nominally Catholic and was guilted into being the guy-with-the-biggest-goofy-hat for the local chapter in the one-horse town my parents live near.

    I thought it was immoral for him to join such a group, but it really didn’t do any wonders for his relationship with his other son who just happens to be gay. Do you want to come help with the anti-gay rally, son?

    The only good thing I can say about Catholics is that they accept evolution and are thus marginally less wrong than Jehovah’s Witnesses (which isn’t that great of a compliment since JW’s are actually provably wrong about absolutely everything).

  • justin jm

    Is it legal to publish the personal information of people who donated to either side?

    Publishing personal information has led to stalking and violence in other cases and could do so again.

    Not that anybody’s necessarily trying to cause violence or encourage it; I just don’t think it’s a good idea to publish addresses or telephone numbers, on the off chance that someone will act on their own to harass or harm the donors.

  • Jen

    I didn’t see anyone on that list that I would have done business in the first place.

  • Gabriel

    justin jm,

    It doesn’t look like anyone’s personal phone number or home address were listed. Everything I saw was business related so that would all be available anyway. When it was just a person it look liked a name and a city. I don’t think any laws were broken.

  • Rat Bastard

    justin jm, it is even legal to publish the addresses of said individuals, as they are a matter of public record (like on the county tax rolls). No laws were even bent, never mind broken.

    My question is, why the hell are out-of-state entities allowed to contribute to OUR state election? They ought to keep their blue noses out of other state’s politics, and everybody else’s business.

  • I’d boycott if I could, but unfortunately that would mean starving. I live in Utah. I’d wager that some non-trivial fraction of my expenses goes in the pockets of people who donated to Yes on 8.

    I donated to No On Prop 8, and I tried to get the word out as best I could. That said, I appreciate that you advocate targeting individual donors instead of my whole state.

  • garrick

    Where is the LDS? They are supposed to be a huge donor but I don’t see them on the list.

  • Bruce

    Might also be good to have a “Buy HERE!” list of friendlies, e.g. Apple Computer, etc.

  • garrick says:

    Where is the LDS? They are supposed to be a huge donor but I don’t see them on the list.

    They are LDS individuals that donated. The church itself donated, but on the sly.

    As for these boycotts, I’m all for it, but I question the blanket boycott of anything Utah. Boycotting anything Utah would also boycott many businesses owned by gays and lesbians. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater, if you will.

  • As for these boycotts, I’m all for it, but I question the blanket boycott of anything Utah. Boycotting anything Utah would also boycott many businesses owned by gays and lesbians. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater, if you will.

    You put it very succinctly, thank you. Remember the Obama quote? “We coach Little League in the Blue States and have gay friends in the Red States.” Yeah, that’s me. And a lot of other people. In fact, we have a sizable progressive minority here. A boycott of Utah hurts us too.

  • Erp

    1. the LDS mostly donated by getting individual members to donate directly. In a few cases the members responded by donating to the ‘no’ campaign

    2. Outside interests are allowed to donate in part because some issues could well affect them (e.g., taxation in California of companies that are national, damming of a river that flows into another state, etc).

    3. Any boycotts should be careful. Don’t boycott just because a low-level employee donated or a relative of an owner donated (unless there is strong evidence that the owner gave the money to the relative or employee in order for the relative or employee to donate).

  • Wow, I can’t believe that so many people are so angry about other people loving each other and wanting to have a family that they are willing to give thousands of dollars to prevent it. That’s just sad.

  • Craig

    One of the bigger givers ($100000) was Mike Murray (who made his fortune at Microsoft). As a philanthropist it is hard to imagine he couldn’t find a better use of this money – but then perhaps he was just the conduit for money from the LDS.
    He has a blog at the not so humble URL:
    http://www.presidentmurray.com/
    where you can post comments to him.

  • Craig

    Murray responds to criticism of his giving $100000 to support Prop 8.
    Pretty lame response though – it boils down to “the church told us to”.
    http://www.presidentmurray.com/2008/11/proposition-8-response.html