Spot the Differences

Wow, his propaganda doesn’t really work for me. Even with the strong, polarizing color cues, I found every statement on the left to be vastly favorable to the one on the right. Try again Comfort!

I didn’t know it was possible to put that much BS into a single “chart” without melting your computer screen.

I don’t know how to even begin to criticize this crap, but it is clearly based on arrogance and dishonesty.

Let’s count the fallacies in this “graphic.” I count Straw-man, false dilemma and wishful thinking.

One final point of observation: the link to Mr. Comfort’s blog is labeled “Open-minded Evolutionist.” Apparently, we have to accept theistic stereotypes, or we’re “intolerant” which of course is another theistic stereotype.

Will the madness ever end?

Let’s count the fallacies in this “graphic.” I count Straw-man, false dilemma and wishful thinking.

Let’s not overlook the obvious, now; the whole fucking thing is an argument from consequences. Ray Comfort, you are monumental idiot.

“Judgement” is just as valid as “judgment”; in fact the “e” version is used in basically every English-speaking country that isn’t America 🙂

I like that nice grey arrow – no god, no judgement, man-made morals, no fixed species (how goddam boring would fixed species be – I’d never have found my beloved beagle) … it sounds just like the world I live in and not some fucking grownup fairy tale.

Yarrrr, the arrows be pointin in dif’ernt directions. Curse ye Ray, ye scurvy sea-dog!

Hemant, you’re a bigot. As a Kiwi, Comfort will use Commonwealth English — and so for him, judgement is correct, and in fact, “judgment” will look like it should be pronounced with a hard g (at which point your tonsils leap out your left ear from the strain).

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/judgement

http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=judgement&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-search

(Also agrees with the dictionary sitting on the shelf near me)

And see: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/judgement.html

judgement – see even my spell checker gets it right (but then again I had to download the English (Australian) Dictionary Add-On for Firefox so I didn’t have to put up with all that US spelling) 🙂

Top graph, good find.
Hemant, I hope your mind is still intact after visiting Comfort’s site. I’m still getting counselling from the last time I looked at it. 🙂

“I wish all the atheists would just stop visiting his blog, arguing with him, and feeding his massive ego. Giving him attention and “persecuting” him just gives him a massive hard-on.”

I totally disagree. I think more atheists should log on and sound off on his blog.

The more he is baited by atheists, the more he sounds like an idiot. And every time his idiot quotient ratchets up, he’s pushed just a little closer to the Christian fringe. Already, Christians on his blog are voicing their discontent at the direction Comfort’s taken (the blog used to be called “Comfort Food”, then he totally re-oriented it to go head-on against the atheist hordes in the comments feed!).

That ego of his is his undoing. Atheists should feed his ego, and as a result divert him from the issues his flock actually cares about.

Best case scenario: his flock leaves for other preachers, he finds his influence has dwindled in the Christian world, and even Christians are going to say, “Shame about Ray, he was great when he wasn’t so obsessed with atheism.”

In Great Britain and many of its former colonies, “judgement” is still the correct spelling; but ever since Noah Webster decreed the first E superfluous, Americans have omitted it. Many of Webster’s crotchets have faded away (each year fewer people use the spelling “theater,” for instance); but even the producers of Terminator 2: Judgment Day, chose the traditional American spelling. If you write “judgement” you should also write “colour.”

I’ll add to that that language is fluid and that as long as it can be understood it is valid to spell things however you like. Not that we shouldn’t take the opportunity to be a snob about it at Ray Comfort’s expense. That’s just a given.

Also the up arrow has seven values listed. Does every Christian agree with these values?

All species fixed forever is hardly a universally agreed point among Christians.

Jefferson didn’t believe in miracles.

Some Christians reject the idea of Hell.

Atheists are just as inconsistent. “Jesus, just a good man” isn’t one of my personal beliefs.

“Just death forever” is open for debate because we don’t know what the future may hold. It may be possible to map the brain’s neural pathways at some future point and create a backup of the mind for example. “Just death forever” is an absolute that I reject. Others are free to disagree.

In fact, the only point we can all agree on is that there is no God, everything else is up for debate. Although I think we’d agree on most of them.

In short Ray Comfort can’t even get the points right for either side of his argument. That shows a serious inability on his part to see anyone else’s point of view. He should stick to making banana jokes.

I hate to defend Ray, but it’s possible his artist is English, or from a “British English” speaking country that puts in an extra ‘e’.

I for one doubt there is a Historical Jesus at all, or that if there is, the gospels are a remotely accurate reflection of his life and words. After all, the accepted canonized ones were all written many years after Jesus’ believed date of death by people who do not even claim to have been there. In the gospels are many historical errors, most notably that the description of Jesus’ crucification does not resemble Roman methods of crucification (or anatomical reality). If there was some guy named Josh passing himself off as the Messiah I think he was probably more like Monty Python’s Bryan than anything. He might have been a nice guy, but who’s to say.

Regardless of the use of colors, I’m kind of wondering what the actual advantages of the points on the left are?

I mean, how does this “fixed species forever” total denialism (not even the “micro-evolution happens” compromise) help me through the day, or even make me feel any better?

Is the real advantage just that the men who’ve told you that is the case—who you-as-denialist have placed your trust in—can continue to be trusted? Because that’s a pretty slim advantage, arguably not an advantage at all.

One of Comfort’s worst mistakes is continuing to insist that atheists hate and deny God… that we kow he is there but actively fight against him. He doesn’t understand that he’s just not part of the equation.

“No moral responsibility to God” should read “Moral rsponsibility to fellow man,” but that’s a concept to confusing fo his flock to comprehend.

(also: http://raytractors.blogspot.com)

Derek, it’s Christmas in Heaven, there’s great films on TV;
The Sound of Music twice an hour, and Jaws 1, 2 and 3.
There’s gifts for all the family, there’s toilettries and trains; Sony Walkman headphone sets and the latest video games.

So don’t worry, man. 🙂

The right side sounds a lot more reasonable and better to me. Thanks Ray you just helped reinforce my atheism.

“Judgement” is just as valid as “judgment”;

Gasp! That’s just the sort of orthographic relativism one wold expect from someone who has “No Moral Responsible To God.”

I’m sure five different people already pointed this out but “judgment” and “judgement” are both correct spellings of the word. Which is good for me as I always spell it “judgement”. It’s more LOGICAL that way.

See, this is the reason I don’t go after Ray on my blog. The Stupid is just… too… much. I like picking apart theistards’ arguments, but they need to make something resembling an actual argument first!

P.S. Judgement. :p

Comfort? Is that charlatan still around?

I honestly don’t believe he really believes in anything but himself. Oh, and the gawdamighty dollar.

Alternatively, it’s possible Comfort’s head is hollow, and that when he prays he thinks that the echoes are answers from God.

Looking at the chart merely for what it is, it’s surprisingly and refreshingly accurate, especially considering that it’s from the author of the argumentum ad bananam.

Nothing in it is a flat-out lie, and it’s devoid of the usual fundy nastiness like “has no morals”, “baby killer” or “secretly hates God”.