Christian Miraculously Survives Dinner with Atheists

He didn’t convert anyone and he is not only being arrogant with that Biblical verse, but he is also being ass with his behaviour. He’s making an ass out of so many better behaved less arrogant Christians with his behaviours. He is the epitomy of the Christian I don’t like, esp with the unrealistic picture he is painting of atheists, esp with his lies about converting people. 🙄

I’m sure it will be a lot warmer in Hell than it is around him. His behaviour so cold that one could get sick from it. Oh wait, some people do get sick from such behaviour. IF there is a god, and IF he is worth his salt, maybe Ray will be the one freezing with all the people he was so arrogantly cold to. 🙄 GEEZE! What an ass!

I’m sure Ray is pretty nice in person. Most people are.

But in writing, he’s a tad condescending… Many Christians are willing to eat with me, but they don’t go around using it as proof of how nice they are.

Anyways, why is it that people think that acts of kindness contradict the atheist worldview?

The verse from Peter is a demonstration that he gave not out of niceness, but with a selfish motive. This, and the fear Comfort imagines all must constantly have, is the essential difference between Christians and atheists. Atheists do nice things because they’re nice.

Let me say right off, as long as Ray’s paying, I’m willing to accept any and all free meals at Ruth’s Chris. He can even preach at me the whole time if he lets me order the big steak.

But yeah, this sounds like it was a great accomplishment for him. What’s the big deal, I go to churches? I talk to Christians all the time. I have dinner with Christians at least once a month (my parents). I blog for a Christian ministry. He seems impressed with himself.

Man, all those times I have been to an IHOP, and I just ate pancakes. Clearly, I was supposed to be stabbing Ray Comfort.

Well, obviously atheist groups in the future should make Comfort agree to pay for only his food and no one else’s as that clouds the post-debate discussion, and gives him unwarranted bragging rights.

Ray, go comfort yourself.

What a pompous, pretentious, self-important ass. His ego is so big it has completely devoured what little intellect he had. He took a camera and there’s going to be a video? Oh I’m sure that well-edited little piece of work will be fair and balanced. Ray the hero being “kind” in his so superior way to the miserable offenders. He’s not just an embarrassment to Christians, he’s an embarrassment to all primates.

I suppose he had IHOP’s banana pancakes.

Huh. I guess the moral of the story is, atheists are regular people, and despicable jerks can’t stop being despicable jerks.

Okay, I’m gonna put my neck on the line (I have Christian friends who visit the site) and say that most Christians have an agenda.

Unless we are willing to let go of the idea that we’re the only ones who are “saved” and “going on to eternal life,” the love we give has an agenda of trying to convert everyone who are outside of that. There’s no way around it. The Christians who claim that is not so are lying to themselves. Either that, or they have no intention of developing a relationship with the people they are talking to.

Now, don’t accuse me of judging my own people. I’m not judging. Just observing. I come to this conclusion by constantly digging and looking into myself. I believe if I cannot expect someone to be genuine with me unless I’m willing to be genuine with them.

That’s why I trust the people who oppose me more so than the people who claim to love me. At least the opposition is genuine. The disagreements are genuine. I hate people who are pretentious. I hate people who put on a smile for you then turn around to judge you. Judge me to my face if that’s what you feel.

Ray Comfort? I’m sure you are a nice person and you think you’re doing everything out of love, but don’t you dare expect me to trust you.

There, I’ve said it. 😯

I give a lot of credit to the OC Atheists group who took the positive step of inviting Comfort to dine with them after his group “tract-bombed” them at one of their meetings.

Eating and talking with them is a classy response, and it shows them off in an excellent light even if Comfort comes off like an ass in his article. But what else is new?

I think the Orange County Atheists are going to regret letting this snake into their midst with a camera. They will not think that the impression the film leaves is representative of what actually happened. It’s all in the editing. In any filmed complicated event such as this, the truth will be found on the editing room floor. Comfort is positively giddy on his blog:

The experience was a highlight of my life. Then about ten of us huddled around a table and talked about the things of God for about an hour. It was up close and personal. Mark answered every question and objection they had, calmly and eloquently. It’s all on film and we hope to be able to make it available through the ministry (to them and you) in a month or so. I took copies of my new book, How to Know God Exists, and all the folks at our table wanted one (it’s a strange feeling signing books for atheists).

So he brings along a theological hired gun presumably because he knows argumentum ad bananum won’t cut it with these guys, and all that “calm and eloquent answering of all their questions and objections” will be cut and pasted into a tableau of evangelical victory over the pathetic atheists, and the book signing sequence will make the atheists look like they’re falling all over each other to get ahold of His Holiness’s sacred text. Start practicing your anger management skills. This film is going to be an outrage. I hope I’m wrong about all this but I doubt it.

That last parenthetical statement about how it’s a strange feeling signing books for atheists sounds like, “It’s a strange feeling, signing books for the Black-blooded Man-eating Fang Masters of Planet Doom.” He’s portraying himself as Daniel in the lion’s den, and he’s milking it for all it’s worth. The fawning “Oh you’re so brave, Ray” comments of his blog acolytes are truly nauseating. Don’t read them without having a paper bag handy.

Even in his short, self-congratulatory blog post Comfort has not portrayed atheists as “dear people.” He has strengthened the image in his devotees’ minds of atheists as dangerous demons.

If anyone knew what they were getting into with Ray, it was the OC atheists. I wouldn’t get too worked up about it. Ray is a street-preacher, and a pop-culture figure in the OC. I’d have wanted a book signed by him as well.

If Banana Boy Ray reedited me to look like I thought he was brilliant and loved his mojo, I’d post a copy on YouTube and send a tape of it to all my friends. It’d be awesome! It’d be like getting fake punched out by a pro wrestler.

Yes there are people who believe whatever Ray tells them. There are also people who think Pro Wrestling is real. Best not to argue with those folks, unless you’ve got a buddy who knows you’re doing it just to make them say funny things and snicker.

In short, best to interact with folks like Ray for sheer entertainment value. If you want a serious debate, choose a serious theologian. If you want a thoughtful two-way dialogue, choose someone whose ears work.

Linda, noone can frustrate you like a brother or sister.

Or so I’ve heard. I’m an only child. But I suspect that the frustration you feel is amplified by sharing the same roof.

Ray Comfort would tell you that when an atheist says nice things to a Christian, I’m a wolf licking a lamb.

So watch out if I suddenly say “U haz a flavor.”

😉

Well . . . . . bless his little heart!

🙂

I’m a Christian and I think Ray’s an ass. Him, Kirk, and Todd Friel are stuck in the 80’s with their “you suck and are going to burn” evangelism which can’t be found anywhere on Jesus lips except for when he talked to ‘religious’ leaders.

Hopefully the post-growing-pains generation can act (not speak) louder in our representation of Jesus than them.