Illinoisans: Go Be Organ Donors

In Europe, apparently, donation is the default position.

The only good reason I have ever heard for not donating your organs is that one cannot donate their organs to the transplant list AND their bodies to science, which makes sense, I suppose.

The myths are quite entertaining, not sure they would satisfy “skeptics”, don’t like using that word for climate change deniers, anti-science movements (e.g. anti-vaccine) and conspiracy freaks,

I’ve heard many people, some of them curiously in the medical profession, that claim doctors would treat organ donors differently. Unless there’s a level of conspiracy of who gets the organs, that I’ve yet to see evidence of, I don’t see a reasonable explanation for doctors to favour someone on the transplant list over me.

I’ve carried a donor card since I was 16, and informed my parents that I wish my body to be used for transplants and donated to science. I think it’s one of the most selfish acts not to. I’ve also thought organ donation should be opt-out.

I’m thinking about writing to Damon Hirst and asking him if he needs another skull to be diamond encrusted.

Even after death, every effort is made to ensure that your loved one’s body is treated with the same degree of respect as is someone who is alive.

They can fuck my corpse for all I care.

The rich and famous aren’t given priority when it comes to allocating organs.

If only I could be so sure about transplants in my country. Apparantly, celebrity alcoholics can get a liver, and then keep drinking, dying a couple of years after the operation.

Organ donation is consistent with the beliefs of most larger religious denominations in the United States. This includes Catholicism, Protestantism and most branches of Judaism. If you’re unsure of or uncomfortable with your faith’s position on donation, ask a member of your clergy.

Or employ critical thinking and become an atheist, and don’t let someone else that doesn’t know tell you what to think.

I can see certain situations that may give rise to preferential treatment to the detriment of a patient.
If I’m 60 or 70 years old with a few, still relatively healthy organs left and the doctor knows of a child who needs one of those organs…well, let’s just say the downside of my passing on the operating table (or wherever) will be greatly eased by the hope offered to a young life as a result of my demise. Other value judgments also come into play.

Having said that, I think such a scenario would be rare. But, it’s naive to think it wouldn’t happen. My father has worked in surgery for decades. Many doctors are FAR, FAR from ethical. And there is a market for organs.

It’s a great idea to be a donor, but I don’t think it should be the default. Even cadavers don’t automatically belong to the state or the medical community. We don’t override property rights just because we want to dictate what’s best. Sure it’s selfish to keep your dead organs, but people have the right to be selfish in the USA.

Sorry in advance for the really long comment. =)

Most states have ruled that dead bodies cannot be property at all. My state in particular, California, had an incident where a famous musician (Gram Parsons) died and his friends stole the body and brought it to Joshua Tree to burn it. To quote from the media:

“The men were tracked down a few days later, but there was no law against stealing a body, so they were charged with stealing the coffin or, as one cop put it, “Gram Theft Parsons.””

I would say the disposal of a person’s body should be subject to that person’s will or, lacking that, defaulting to donation.

There is, however, a problem with this in the case of people who die unexpectedly, and do not write a will. Imagine, for example, an eight-year-old boy being hit by a car and dying two days later in the hospital due to subdural hematoma.

Specific, yes, but that’s ’cause it happened to my friend’s little brother about a month ago. Needless to say, they were (and still are) heartbroken, and I would imagine most would agree they should get to decide what to do with the body.

For many, having a funeral is a useful grieving process. Not for me — I hate the very idea of funerals and never have nor ever will attend(ed) one — but in a case such as this, it’s hard to really justify a default of donation.

So… maybe there should be some cut-off age, say senior citizen age (65 here), at which point people should reasonably be expected to have a will. And if they don’t, then we can assume they don’t care, and hack them up for research.

Now, with *organ* donations, this is another story. I do not see why we can’t take the useful bits out of someone who’s been hit by a car as long as the exterior of the corpse is preserved. If my little brother were hit by a car and killed tragically, I’d be devastated, but I’d have no problem with the news that his kidneys would be removed and given to prevent yet another needless death. Indeed, I think it’d make me feel better to know my brother was, in the only real sense, still out there helping people. =)

My body is allocated for educational use at UCLA medical, although I think I am on the list for organ donation as well… I don’t expect that to be around by the time I die — we’ll be cloning the organs, or regenerating them in corpo by then. =)

Over half of the 97,000 Americans on the national transplant waiting list will die before they get a transplant. Most of these deaths are needless. Americans bury or cremate about 20,000 transplantable organs every year. Over 6,000 of our neighbors suffer and die needlessly every year as a result.

There is a simple way to put a big dent in the organ shortage — give organs first to people who have agreed to donate their own organs when they die.

Giving organs first to organ donors will convince more people to register as organ donors. It will also make the organ allocation system fairer. People who aren’t willing to share the gift of life should go to the back of the waiting list as long as there is a shortage of organs.

Anyone who wants to donate their organs to others who have agreed to donate theirs can join LifeSharers. LifeSharers is a non-profit network of organ donors who agree to offer their organs first to other organ donors when they die. Membership is free at http://www.lifesharers.org or by calling 1-888-ORGAN88. There is no age limit, parents can enroll their minor children, and no one is excluded due to any pre-existing medical condition.

Dave Undis said,

There is a simple way to put a big dent in the organ shortage– give organs first to people who have agreed to donate their own organs when they die.

That is a very interesting idea. I’d be interested if anyone sees any ethical problems with favoring registered donors over those who are not, but it is an intriquing suggestion. I’ve been registered since the program first started in my state, but I know people often need a little more “inspiration” for this act. There’s nothing like sweetening the deal with a little self interest to make altruism more attractive.

Robert Goulet died last night at age 73 while waiting for a lung transplant.

@ash,
Which one(s) of my statements did you find unintelligent?

@Polly, dude, please tell me you didn’t take that as an insult? if so i apologise most profusely, really honestly sorry…

i actually meant that you seemed to be the only person here specifically arguing against donation as default, and as i also actually respect your ability to argue in an intelligent manner, it was worth me addressing my comment to you. no sarcasm, no disrespect intended.

-Jen

1. People who are unable to donate organs (due to medicines or age or method of death or whatever would make them unable to donate) could say they totally would donate their organs, really, but just can’t, what a shame. Therefore, having to donate after death is only a reality for some of the people seeking transplants.

They don’t know how they’re going to die, and if they die, they don’t need the organs anyway, it shouldn’t effect their ranking. I don’t think there’s many people who can’t donate organs if you factor out the way they die. I’m willing to let those people go above the ones that could donate but won’t.

2. Someone who decided they don’t want to donate their organs is now in a position where they need an organ or will die. Therefore, requiring them to donate (which probably wouldn’t hold up in court or with their families) is in effect withholding life-saving treatment over… selfishness, or some sort of personal religion, or some other personality flaw that still probably shouldn’t have to kill them.

It’s not withholding life-saving treatment, but the effect is the same. Think of it as a tax, like road tax, that people have to pay if they want to drive on public roads. It’s fair and it encourages people to change their behaviour in a way that would solve the problem in the first place. They don’t have an automatic right to organs.

-Jen
I did think of that but regardless of certain activites, I think the will to donate is good enough. People who weren’t willing to donate until they couldn’t should obviously not be ranked higher. It’s not about being completely fair, some people who can’t donate should still be ranked high, like people born with HIV, or people who signed up to be a donor before they got it.

My analogy wasn’t meant to be taken that far. I guess a better analogy is an incentive system, more than road tax. I grabbed for an idea of something citizens in a lot of places sign up for to get benefits from.

The road tax system doesn’t fall apart because people cheat. As long as there’s an overwhelming majority who don’t, and there’s a system in place to try to stop people cheat.

If you sign away your organs in return of the chance to recieve organs, I don’t see how families who want to renege would succeed in courts.

I’m not saying it’s the only way to solve the problem, I bet libertarians are going to hate it. Let the invisible hand of the market decide who gets organs!

Perhaps a less radical solution would be to allow potential donors decide who gets organs. For example, people who could, but are unwilling to sign up to be organ donors would be on my list of people not getting my organs. You can decide which charity you donate your money to.

Hermant,

I noticed the link above to the registration form is broken. We did some site updates early this year, anyhow here is the link to the registration form.

Thanks!